Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
I'm so sorry. Lunabell Nov 2019 #1
Thank you. They're church pastors so I'm not very hopeful. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #2
Maybe they should rethink whatever their religion is. blueinredohio Nov 2019 #22
Apparently God hates liberals. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #34
Jesus. dchill Nov 2019 #53
Anne Lamott -- spike jones Nov 2019 #70
sad Skittles Nov 2019 #3
That is the thing that I think about most. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #23
Yes, but not everyone is equally vulnerable to that. Hortensis Nov 2019 #47
Too many average humans are susceptible to the poison, tho. SuprstitionAintthWay Dec 2019 #158
Too true. Fox isn't just everywhere, it's easily the best Hortensis Dec 2019 #159
I've read that children of religious extremists.... reACTIONary Nov 2019 #117
Although my husbands parents were not extremists, bamagal62 Nov 2019 #149
Very interesting - nt reACTIONary Nov 2019 #155
I truly don't understand people who allow political views to dictate their lives. cwydro Nov 2019 #4
The OP's situation isn't entirely about political views, it seems. Mariana Nov 2019 #14
One of the more cultish aspects of the religion Major Nikon Nov 2019 #15
Do you know where this is in the bible? Raised Catholic, never heard that. Tech Nov 2019 #19
Sure. Mariana Nov 2019 #26
And yet as he was dying on the cross, dawg day Nov 2019 #42
Maybe by then, he decided Mariana Nov 2019 #51
you are putting a false spin on what He said questionseverything Nov 2019 #110
More specifically, it is a bad translation ThoughtCriminal Nov 2019 #132
That was always my take on it as well. Plus... Beartracks Nov 2019 #134
That's because Catholic and Orthodox do not believe in a literal Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #29
Even if it's only metaphorical, the message is the same. nt. Mariana Nov 2019 #36
No it's not, not even close. Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #37
Please, then, do tell us what it means. nt. Mariana Nov 2019 #52
It refers to love, not hatred... Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #65
The opposite of love is indifference. n/t spike jones Nov 2019 #79
No. Apathy is not Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #80
But when you don't love someone you don't care about their interest. spike jones Nov 2019 #98
Love is always saying you're sorry Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #101
that is a quote from a movie that I have never seen. spike jones Nov 2019 #116
Interesting discussion, thanks. Hortensis Nov 2019 #119
The level of pretzel logic required to refute that is astounding Major Nikon Nov 2019 #127
Nah, just not a Protestant Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #138
I've already told you I'm not playing your games anymore Major Nikon Nov 2019 #140
Then how about you quit pretending you understand Catholic teaching Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #141
Unlike you I'm not even "pretending" you are wrong Major Nikon Nov 2019 #144
You presented a viewpoint founded on YOUR interpretation of Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #153
I like dark beer Major Nikon Nov 2019 #157
It's not. a la izquierda Nov 2019 #150
Of course they do Major Nikon Nov 2019 #57
That is NOT Catholic teaching. Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #68
more on those below Major Nikon Nov 2019 #73
By all means, tell me where the Catechism says what you purport Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #76
Protestants also believe they are conveying the correct message Major Nikon Nov 2019 #86
The Popes do NOT teach that the Bible is incapable of being wrong Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #93
From the same source you are using.... Major Nikon Nov 2019 #95
And yet the synod of Bishops refuted that under Benedict Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #97
Wow, so the catechism is the authority on Catholic teaching except when it isn't! Major Nikon Nov 2019 #107
Only straws are the ones you grasp Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #115
I've never read or heard that. Could you tell me the book and verse? blueinredohio Nov 2019 #25
I provided them here: Mariana Nov 2019 #31
Thanks blueinredohio Nov 2019 #39
Jesus was a fairly loathsome character in his teachings. A real shithead, to be honest. stopbush Nov 2019 #30
He hates FIGS, for gods sakes. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #55
And pigs, too. He hates pigs. stopbush Nov 2019 #59
But he blessed . . . Richard D Nov 2019 #71
Hmmm! 🤨 BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #83
What teaching of his was loathsome? Beringia Nov 2019 #72
Cited earlier in this thread. But many more. stopbush Nov 2019 #92
So scroll thru 138 posts for I don't even know what I am looking for? Beringia Nov 2019 #139
Yep. That's how it works. We're adults here. stopbush Nov 2019 #154
What God has joined together let no man put asunder delisen Nov 2019 #43
It happened with my cousin tymorial Nov 2019 #5
I haven't quite been there... regnaD kciN Nov 2019 #17
For one thing she might be reacting to people who think that she is incapable of thinking for braddy Nov 2019 #6
unrec. n/t Coventina Nov 2019 #9
Keep a relationship with your grandchildren, someday they may surprise you. dem4decades Nov 2019 #7
The grandchild are 4 and 2. She doesn't allow us a relationship. I leave gifts on their porch. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #10
That's tough, i can't even comprehend. It's like a cult and sadly you can't do anything. dem4decades Nov 2019 #20
This must be heartbreaking for you. Desert grandma Nov 2019 #44
Thank you, we would never deny her support or love. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #49
I don't know your daughter, but I'm spitting mad at her Rorey Nov 2019 #50
Thank you. Of course we wouldn't discuss those subject with children. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #54
She is probably indoctrinating them to believe that you do not want them. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #75
My greatest fear. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #99
wow jberryhill Nov 2019 #142
I think it's difficult to remain in such a false world. The truth will makes its way through. The Wielding Truth Nov 2019 #8
I hope you're right. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #35
We cut my son-in-law's family out years ago. Aristus Nov 2019 #11
My sister in law did that, when she got recruited into a fundie church. Mariana Nov 2019 #12
I did read that, once estranged, women are more likely to come back than men. NCLefty Nov 2019 #13
I agree with this. Keep a thread intact. blm Nov 2019 #18
My parents are pretty hard core Faux watchers Calista241 Nov 2019 #16
We tried diligently to keep a relationship. She slowly but surely stopped including us, stopped onecaliberal Nov 2019 #21
Maybe she's being emotionally blackmailed by the husband lostnfound Nov 2019 #94
Very good suggestions. I will definitely look into that. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #100
Yes, good suggestions. She may well have been pushed into Hortensis Nov 2019 #131
We never discussed politics with them or her In-laws. We were politically active before my onecaliberal Nov 2019 #32
I think the best thing is to let it go for now... GitRDun Nov 2019 #24
Well, we have no choice but to accept our reality. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #28
Agreed GitRDun Nov 2019 #45
Good for you, even though it's got to be difficult Rorey Nov 2019 #46
I tried to point that out to the girls GitRDun Nov 2019 #77
If you have any assets, leave them each one hundred dollars in your will. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #81
I didn't realize that could be a problem n/t GitRDun Nov 2019 #96
We don't have a lot, it's all in a trust. We will leave a letter onecaliberal Nov 2019 #104
There is a thing about leaving a small amount--as stated above. I think judges consider that. NCLefty Nov 2019 #146
You did the right thing. radius777 Nov 2019 #105
There was a lot of history here.... GitRDun Nov 2019 #121
I feel you. Perhaps the ex-wife/mom radius777 Nov 2019 #145
Your son should've called the cops on that oldest sister. Nt raccoon Nov 2019 #152
Politics should not divide families at140 Nov 2019 #27
Its talk like this that will lead to 4 more yrs of tRump. Joe941 Nov 2019 #61
I wish my talk could sway elections..alas they never have! at140 Nov 2019 #78
Tell that to those who will not have health care if goppers destroy it. Joe941 Nov 2019 #106
The lives of some ARE drastically impacted Rorey Nov 2019 #87
My words were meant more as a at140 Nov 2019 #91
Sorry DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #33
What denomination does your daughter's in-laws belong to? YOHABLO Nov 2019 #38
It's part of the Baptist convention. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #56
I'm so sorry, Onecaliberal. We're parents too. Hortensis Nov 2019 #40
The door will always be open. Her husband was home schooled onecaliberal Nov 2019 #58
Sounds good, even though very closed off. Seriously. Hortensis Nov 2019 #66
I have not thus far. I don't want to talk with other family onecaliberal Nov 2019 #108
Listen to this episode of 1a... LaurenOlimina Nov 2019 #41
It's very painful for us in any case. We did nothing to deserve this. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #60
That episode helped me. LaurenOlimina Nov 2019 #69
Thank you. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #111
Glad you posted this catchnrelease Nov 2019 #109
This happened to a friend of mine. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #48
Fascinating thread. cilla4progress Nov 2019 #62
hang in there handmade34 Nov 2019 #63
Thank you. Peaceful thoughts for you onecaliberal Nov 2019 #112
Tell them that the estimates of deaths from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars number into Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #64
Oh she knows how we feel about Iraq. We protested BIGLY onecaliberal Nov 2019 #113
She is loved and respected erlewyne Nov 2019 #67
I hear your heartbreak. Mine is reversed. Backseat Driver Nov 2019 #74
Thank you for the insight. It helps to know that you have onecaliberal Nov 2019 #118
Wow. So sorry - these are such challenging times on so many levels NRaleighLiberal Nov 2019 #82
Our two dogs and two cats despise trump as much as we do. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #120
that happens to a lot, the cult is spreading, they even have evilgelical recruitment yaesu Nov 2019 #84
I'm so sorry, I can't imagine. 😪 BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #85
Thank you. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #136
Isolation - a strong sign of a cult. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #88
I'm so sorry that it has came down to this, onecaliberal Niagara Nov 2019 #89
I love this suggestion. Thank you. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #122
You should force the issue and ask why radius777 Nov 2019 #90
Everything was fine until she married. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #125
my wife didn't speak to our daughter for several years.......... Takket Nov 2019 #102
Thank you, I appreciate the suggestions. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #128
I lost my oldest son, and 2 granddaughters I will never know FirstLight Nov 2019 #103
Have you ever wondered, what Dan Nov 2019 #114
Happened to us during the Bush II era ThoughtCriminal Nov 2019 #123
I think there is a real chance Trump will be the downfall jimlup Nov 2019 #124
Tell them to read what Christ says in John 13:34 NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2019 #126
Dear onecalliberal, madaboutharry Nov 2019 #129
Thank you all for the kind words and encouraging suggestions onecaliberal Nov 2019 #130
I'm so sorry. Joinfortmill Nov 2019 #133
It's hard to imagine anything more painful, except for a terminal illness. pnwmom Nov 2019 #135
Absolutely, I need to write her a letter. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #137
I'm so sorry for you kimbutgar Nov 2019 #143
There is a big difference between the ideology of the Church, vlyons Nov 2019 #147
I have a suggestion for you to ponder. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #148
When my grandmother died... a la izquierda Nov 2019 #151
This message was self-deleted by its author Shrike47 Nov 2019 #156
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Our daughter has been ind...»Reply #19