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TomVilmer

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40. Yes, that is the rational analysis.

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:08 PM

Nov 2019

I was myself bullied and beaten at school, both by other students and by the teachers. And by my otherwise loving family, since this is more than 50 years ago. And I was fighting back psychically through and after high school. That is why it is now 50 years sine my last fight, and why I today is a very active pacifist.

So I agree. Beating the bully does not transform anybody into a hero. Just into a new kind of bully. Fight back, but by all other means!

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Gay teen fights back against school bully as teachers do nothing in viral video [View all] Behind the Aegis Nov 2019 OP

I saw that video a couple of days ago ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #1

Almost slapped him out of his shoes to send him to the floor Hav Nov 2019 #2

Jordan initiated the verbal exchange stopdiggin Nov 2019 #3

No he doesn't deserve to be charged with assault. phleshdef Nov 2019 #5

I agree in principle stopdiggin Nov 2019 #9

There is way more to it than that. phleshdef Nov 2019 #12

It's a good case for a "stand your ground" type of law. patphil Nov 2019 #69

Republican homo-phobe? Soxderrube Nov 2019 #71

that was your take away? (nt) stopdiggin Nov 2019 #73

I just watched it. The kid came at him. He told him back off and he didn't. Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #10

then we have a diff of opinion. gay teen was aggressor in vid. stopdiggin Nov 2019 #13

But I don't believe you have to be assaulted before you can defend yourself Buckeyeblue Nov 2019 #15

Not quite. Saviolo Nov 2019 #22

in almost any jurisdiction stopdiggin Nov 2019 #27

If I were looking at that video Saviolo Nov 2019 #38

Yes, that is the rational analysis. TomVilmer Nov 2019 #40

Jordan had been putting up with that punk for years, it never stopped. He DIDN'T initiate it. George II Nov 2019 #17

on this occasion he did stopdiggin Nov 2019 #19

And you interpret this as NOT being the aggressor? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #26

in his own words, Steffy confronted the other kid about the post stopdiggin Nov 2019 #35

You are speaking in purely legal terminology. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #39

you make good points stopdiggin Nov 2019 #55

You also make a good point there LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #56

Who cares if he's the aggressor? Good for him The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #28

Then why don't you tell me where the fuck the teachers were all year. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #43

no you don't offend stopdiggin Nov 2019 #44

It's clear that this school system was ignoring this situation for FIVE fucking years. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #45

do you have evidence stopdiggin Nov 2019 #47

It's in the article. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #51

this is the teen's account stopdiggin Nov 2019 #53

What exactly leads you to allege it's not plausible? LanternWaste Nov 2019 #65

Ugh David__77 Nov 2019 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author SlogginThroughIt Nov 2019 #58

LOL tenderfoot Nov 2019 #61

Good for Jordan! sheshe2 Nov 2019 #4

It's always the bullies who get the slap on the wrist sakabatou Nov 2019 #6

Society is threatened by those who don't stay in their place The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #31

When you fight back against them they yell for mommy RhodeIslandOne Nov 2019 #70

k&r Demovictory9 Nov 2019 #7

video from twitter Demovictory9 Nov 2019 #8

+100000 Celerity Nov 2019 #14

Since this was in Mike Pence Country, why didn't the bully just CaptYossarian Nov 2019 #11

Did some apostles abandon their families? keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #21

I was trolling the evangelicals. Make them think they have a gay Savior. CaptYossarian Nov 2019 #60

Um. cwydro Nov 2019 #30

I was trolling the RWNJs. Hit them where it hurts. CaptYossarian Nov 2019 #57

I couldn't find the location. U.S. south? Red, xtian state? Public school or private? lindysalsagal Nov 2019 #52

It was rural Indiana. CaptYossarian Nov 2019 #59

No surprise, there. lindysalsagal Nov 2019 #64

Totalitarian Peace. The perverted notion that peace is the lack of opposing abuse. MarcA Nov 2019 #16

+1 The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #32

the anti harassment policies , rules, laws and so on are a bunch of nonsense AllaN01Bear Nov 2019 #18

The fact that the teacher let it get that far is appalling. Susan Calvin Nov 2019 #20

I can hear adult voices toward the end. cwydro Nov 2019 #34

Sounded like a male teacher came in through the door. AtheistCrusader Nov 2019 #72

Depends on the district. Igel Nov 2019 #41

Exactly. Susan Calvin Nov 2019 #42

Ah, zero-tolerance, the tried and true way for right-wingers in power to brain-damage any system. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #46

True, but hopefully the bully now knows not to ever ecstatic Nov 2019 #62

You may be right about that, Susan Calvin Nov 2019 #74

I wish I had known how lame bullies are when I was in school. Inside they are scared little children Nitram Nov 2019 #23

Will the bully get several buddies to help attack Jordan to defend his manliness? keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #24

Probably The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #33

Not likely. His buddies are probably ragging the shit out of him for getting his ass kicked! Floyd R. Turbo Nov 2019 #37

Anything is possible with this new generation, but ecstatic Nov 2019 #63

Stand tall Jordan. The teachers that watched need to be fired. No excuse. The bullies need to Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #25

Rec. cwydro Nov 2019 #29

Braaavo! LuvNewcastle Nov 2019 #36

Great job. dalton99a Nov 2019 #48

Warms my heart. David__77 Nov 2019 #49

Good for that kid. 912gdm Nov 2019 #54

Bravo Jordan randr Nov 2019 #66

I empathize with Jordan for fighting back against a verbal abuser IronLionZion Nov 2019 #67

The odd thing about the encounter is that the other kid never Apollo Zeus Nov 2019 #68