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Response to diva77 (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 09:27 PM

48. Facts are a non partisan issue. Wild inaccurate exageration undermines people's interest

when there are actual problems.

I am guessing that in your rush to embrace the most exaggerated claims that you didn't bother to click through to the original source material that Bradblog was sourcing.

I did for GA and seeing that it wasn't consistent with either Bradblog or your OP didn't bother to continue to read the one about PA.

The original sourced material by the AJC which Bradblog is linked to bears no resemblance to Bradblog's interpretation or your citation of Bradblog.

Let's review what you posted:



while brand-new, 100% unverifiable touchscreen voting systems being deployed in Pennsylvania and Georgia failed fantastically in several counties. Some voters were left unable to vote at all or facing long lines --- even during otherwise sparsely attended off-year municipal elections! Some candidates were left off of the electronic ballots all together and others found themselves with reportedly ZERO votes recorded on the all-new, way-better-than-the-old unverifiable touchscreen computer Ballot Marking Devices (BMDs) tested in both PA and GA before wide deployment for the critical 2020 Presidential election.



As to the allegation that there was widespread system failure, here is what Bradblog's source the AJC actually reports:



https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/problem-with-new-election-equipment-delays-voting-georgia-counties/vxltEshk0grck0uJiWA5RM/

Problem with new election equipment delays voting in Georgia counties

Bartow County Elections Supervisor Joseph Kirk said some of the Poll Pads weren’t functioning properly, but there was always at least one working in each precinct.

“It didn’t slow us down at all,” Kirk said. “Everything went fine.”

“It ran as smooth as silk” during early voting, Heard said. “The voters have been overwhelmingly positive with the new system.”



Your claim that "Brand new touchscreen voting systems failed in GA and PA" is not supported by the material that your source quotes.

As to the allegation that it was related to the touch screen part of the voting, the original source material does not support that either.

From the article



Poll workers weren’t able to create voter access cards on new voting check-in computers manufactured by KnowInk. Those cards activate touchscreen voting machines so that they display the ballot associated with the jurisdictions where voters are registered.



In other words there was a kink in the software in some of the machines in some of the precincts linking the voter database so that the voter would get the correct ballot for the jurisdiction where they were voting. I am guessing that there were corrective patches made that weren't uploaded to all of the computers so that a few computers needed to have the fix added.

Nothing in the article indicates that there were problems in vote totals, assigning the correct vote to the correct candidate, etc.

But the greatest lie is in the completely dishonest framing of the actual facts and what happened.

Anybody reading your version of what happened would assume that this is part of a corrupt system trying to use unreliable touchscreen systems to control and influence vote counts. The AJC article documents that the opposite is true but by omitting the context you have given a completely shameful mispresentation of the facts.

Here is what the original sourced material states:



The problem didn’t occur during the previous three weeks of in-person early voting, when about 9,000 voters in the six pilot counties cast ballots on equipment made by Dominion Voting Systems, which won a $107 million state contract this summer to replace Georgia’s electronic voting machines with a system that prints out paper ballots.



In other words these machines are being added to the GA voting system to do exactly what we want: create a paper ballot.

No one reading your OP would have understood that unless they clicked through to the original source which documents a story completely contrary to the impression your OP gives.

Many people think that because in their mind they think they care more about an issue than other people they don't have to spend the time to get the actual facts but rush in with unsubstantiated and reckless assertions. I have a different view. I believe that if you actually care about the material you are posting that you are obligated to click through to the original source. If I don't have time (I work more than 80 hours a week and travel on the road 90% of the time) to do it right then I pass on it. I have 2 hours break tonight and I have decided to go back and reread all of the original source material and how you presented it because I think it is important. Life is short and my time is limited and I don't have the time to invest following anybody who is so careless with facts so I will take advantage of the tools available to make sure our paths don't cross again. That you don't immediate delete the OP only demonstrates your determination to promote something that you emotionally agree with regardless of its accuracy. That is what a lot of Republicans do.

Getting beyond the fantastical claims of your OP I found that the AJC to be illuminating, educational and refreshing for two reasons.

The first reason (which could never be discerned from your OP) is that GA is taking positive steps to have paper ballots available for the March Primary. Good for them.

The second is that there was a very human and touching element to the AJC story which showed that the election workers were very concerned about the human impact that the short delays were causing. This was a very positive story but some people are so concerned with finding anything that supports their preconceived idea what was happening and are determined to cherry pick stories so aggressively that they really miss what is really happening.

No massive failure. One voter was going to miss his opportunity to vote. So what did the election workers and the contractors do? For a change lets not interpret the original source material but let it speak for itself



Some voters were delayed about 15 or 20 minutes, and one precinct remained open until 7:30 p.m. to accommodate a voter who had to leave for work before casting a ballot in the morning, Rigby said. Election workers got around the problem by manually pulling up ballots on touchscreen voting machines so that they displayed the ballot associated with the jurisdictions where voters



Wow election officials working with their contractor to keep a precinct open so that a single voter wouldn't miss his right to vote because he worked long hours. What a scandal.






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