HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Brand new touchscreen vot... » Reply #38

Response to grantcart (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 04:08 AM

38. Election integrity is a nonpartisan issue. The machines are nontransparent regardless

of which party you belong to when you "vote." That is the crux of the problem. We cannot be sure our votes are being counted as cast with computers being part of the process -- you cannot observe what happens to your vote when you submit it to a computer or when a tabulator is used.
We will face objections from both parties for the foreseeable future as long as these nonverifiable election systems continue to be used. And it's not just the equipment - we now have a system of extortion built into our elections systems -- if you hold office, you'd better approve of the budget for the equipment...or else buhbye office.

As for paper ballots, the problem with these ballot marking devices (BMDs) is that you cannot verify your vote since it is translated into computer code -- the bar code on the piece of paper.

Bar code fraud has been a problem in stores that use the bar code system -- an item on the shelf may be labeled as costing 50 cents; however, when that item gets scanned at the check-out, the actual charge from the bar code may differ from what the label on the shelf said -- you could, for example, be charged $50 for the same item.

The BMDs not only generate bar codes, but there is an extra diabolical feature -- when you submit your paper "ballot" after "voting," the BMD is capable of changing or adding votes to the paper.

Elections officials & vendors conducted a study to find out the % of people who don't check their "ballot" after "voting" -- this percentage is critical data for someone trying to calculate how to rig an election as "under the radar" as possible.

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 62 replies Author Time Post
diva77 Nov 8 OP
True Blue American Nov 8 #1
diva77 Nov 8 #2
True Blue American Nov 8 #13
diva77 Nov 9 #41
True Blue American Nov 9 #42
rickford66 Nov 8 #8
yardwork Nov 8 #10
grantcart Nov 8 #11
questionseverything Nov 8 #35
grantcart Nov 8 #37
LineLineLineLineLineReply Election integrity is a nonpartisan issue. The machines are nontransparent regardless
diva77 Nov 9 #38
grantcart Nov 9 #48
diva77 Nov 10 #49
stopdiggin Nov 10 #51
questionseverything Nov 10 #60
grantcart Nov 10 #61
questionseverything Nov 11 #62
questionseverything Nov 9 #44
True Blue American Nov 9 #43
James48 Nov 8 #3
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 8 #5
gab13by13 Nov 8 #7
Ms. Toad Nov 8 #12
exboyfil Nov 8 #26
Ms. Toad Nov 8 #34
True Blue American Nov 8 #14
Snoopy 7 Nov 8 #4
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #6
True Blue American Nov 8 #15
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #18
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 9 #39
BumRushDaShow Nov 9 #40
questionseverything Nov 9 #45
DeminPennswoods Nov 8 #16
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #19
DeminPennswoods Nov 8 #24
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #27
DeminPennswoods Nov 8 #30
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #31
DeminPennswoods Nov 8 #25
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #29
True Blue American Nov 8 #22
DeminPennswoods Nov 8 #17
BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #20
Chin music Nov 8 #9
Garrett78 Nov 8 #21
Initech Nov 8 #23
exboyfil Nov 8 #28
stopdiggin Nov 10 #52
dewsgirl Nov 8 #32
meow2u3 Nov 8 #33
questionseverything Nov 8 #36
Blue_true Nov 9 #47
questionseverything Nov 10 #50
stopdiggin Nov 10 #53
Blue_true Nov 10 #58
questionseverything Nov 10 #59
Blue_true Nov 9 #46
Hearthrob Nov 10 #56
Blue_true Nov 10 #57
yortsed snacilbuper Nov 10 #54
rockfordfile Nov 10 #55
Please login to view edit histories.