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napi21

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11. I like the idea of info on ALL CALLS involving Ukraine, BUT there is NO recording of the 7/25 call,

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:17 PM

Oct 2019

and from the witness yesterday, the 2 transcripts that exist were created by 2 different people and both have omissions. He said HE tried to fix one of them and the WH refused to do so.

I wonder if Zelensky has a recording of that call? Would the House be permitted to obtain a copy since it's from a foreign Country?

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Today's impeachment resolution .. includes a key provision that has potential to become game changer [View all] hlthe2b Oct 2019 OP

A very constitutional approach. I approve. Checks and balances! Nt Ninga Oct 2019 #1

I like this idea! RainCaster Oct 2019 #2

Excellent Mike 03 Oct 2019 #3

This Is a Brutal, Brilliant Fucking Trap! BRAVO PELOSI!! Skraxx Oct 2019 #4

Pelosi safeinOhio Oct 2019 #5

No Deal for You! Skraxx Oct 2019 #6

WHAT??? Actual consequences for bad behavior? Who could have guessed? calimary Nov 2019 #57

... orangecrush Oct 2019 #8

Oh snap! lark Oct 2019 #7

I like the idea of info on ALL CALLS involving Ukraine, BUT there is NO recording of the 7/25 call, napi21 Oct 2019 #11

But the question still remains: luvtheGWN Oct 2019 #15

I believe you're onto something. joost5 Oct 2019 #19

Indict Barr for Obstruction of Justice first. Lock him up. Oct 2019 #9

very smart. you either participate FULLY or NOT AT ALL. your choice. EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #10

Fuckin' A, Bubba! SergeStorms Oct 2019 #12

Whoa! Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #13

Doesn't sound any different from normal expected, though, just Hortensis Oct 2019 #14

Actually, it HAS added a signficant aspect: His lawyers can NOT participate if they stonewall hlthe2b Oct 2019 #22

Yes, another nail to firm up the procedural structure, plug a rat hole Hortensis Oct 2019 #23

Except they will argue that he is not "unlawfully" refusing... I hope we don't end up in protracted JudyM Oct 2019 #41

Again. this is rules of the impeachment inquiry. Courts will not get involved in arbitrating rules hlthe2b Oct 2019 #42

Ok. We'll find out if it's accepted or fought... they are doing everything possible to slow down JudyM Oct 2019 #46

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #16

Quid pro quo baby! lunatica Oct 2019 #17

Poetic Justice gab13by13 Oct 2019 #18

Welcome to DU. lunatica Oct 2019 #20

Wondering about the word "lawful". Doesn't that pretty much put us in the same place? He says Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #21

There is precedence against global use of Executive Privilege during formal impeachment proeceedings hlthe2b Oct 2019 #24

So you are saying the Dens decide if it's "lawful" or Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #32

They decide if Trump is adhering to the rules. So while they may not determine a "privilege" case hlthe2b Oct 2019 #34

I understand...but still strikes me that a court Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #37

They decide on executive privilege via a suit or appeal if a contempt charge is brought hlthe2b Oct 2019 #38

Let's just simplify this. Corey Lewandowski is called Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #43

That is a civil contempt issue and they would litigate just as they already are on several others. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #45

Thanks for imparting your patience and knowledge Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #49

It is a novel approach that offers both inducement and a big stick. It will go hand in hand with hlthe2b Oct 2019 #50

Its a go. Trump will have to show docs and cooperate or STFU. riversedge Oct 2019 #25

One bit of advice for Trump's lawyers C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #26

DUzy Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #33

traitortrump has already played out the 'witchunt'/kangaroo court stuff, wonder empedocles Oct 2019 #27

Remember he even threw BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #29

"the White House should not be permitted to participate in the process only on its own terms." BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #28

K&R Scurrilous Oct 2019 #30

Very clever! Reciprosity! Nitram Oct 2019 #31

It is brilliant malaise Oct 2019 #35

Gen-yee-us. Pure genius Roland99 Oct 2019 #36

Great Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2019 #39

Lock all of them up. warmfeet Oct 2019 #40

Smart helpmenow Oct 2019 #44

I think its ok but doesn't that just play into his strategy, scream and cry about the mean Dems Pepsidog Oct 2019 #47

Pretty much... regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #51

+1 ancianita Nov 2019 #53

It would backfire. gulliver Oct 2019 #48

I like this! Roland99 Nov 2019 #55

Like the way you think.... outside the box! Need Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #56

K&R Cetacea Nov 2019 #52

my initial thought is that it doesn't matter orleans Nov 2019 #54

An interesting take on it.... hlthe2b Nov 2019 #58