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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 26, 2019, 10:27 AM

21. I like the connection to the founding fathers an Federalist Papers.

My sense is that to get the electorate on board, it needs to be broken down further to a clear violation of a law on the books in 2019. He may well have done that, but to credibly impeach, that's what will need to be shown.

Bill Clinton clearly committed perjury. You can argue a more nebulous abuse of power, given the dynamics in the relationship with Lewinsky; however, perjury was the best argument for removal. The difference was that his affair and subsequent lie, while illegal and unethical, did not substantially represent a violation of national interest. Were he eligible for reelection, the argument might have been different - that the lie was a calculated attempt to mislead voters. But that was not the case, and even the most valud charge fell well short of the impeachment threshhold.

This case is much more like Watergate. Nixon obstructed justice to cover a crime in support of his reelection. Here, Trump is alleged to have extorted Ukraine in order to get damaging information on the son of an opponent. The House needs to tie those allegations to laws on the books.

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