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Are Liberals Too Eager to Believe Sex Charges Against Julian Assange? [View all]	marmar	Sep 2012	OP
Only the .	sendero	Sep 2012	#1
bullshit.	Buzz Clik	Sep 2012	#52
I know plenty about it.	sendero	Sep 2012	#65
My comment has to do without you baseless judgment of other people.	Buzz Clik	Sep 2012	#80
If you admittedly know nothing of the facts of the case, why are you judging the opinions of others?	leveymg	Sep 2012	#111
Wrong. Completely wrong.	Buzz Clik	Sep 2012	#160
+1000	DeSwiss	Sep 2012	#162
the sad truth is that allegations based on sex are destructive and are	Swagman	Sep 2012	#279
du rec. Nt	xchrom	Sep 2012	#2
Nope. Not enough credible evidence	fredamae	Sep 2012	#3
Not this liberal.	ananda	Sep 2012	#4
Thank you. A well-written piece. nt	Bonobo	Sep 2012	#5
What article did you read?	whistler162	Sep 2012	#151
"god of the hour"???	Matariki	Sep 2012	#203
I don't see liberals here believing them.	woo me with science	Sep 2012	#6
you point out some important truths about DU and society in general.	iemitsu	Sep 2012	#58
From an article written by Cass Sunstein,	OnyxCollie	Sep 2012	#69
thank you for providing the evidence to support my claim.	iemitsu	Sep 2012	#90
Very important information. Thanks for posting it.	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#96
Wonderful post, OnyxCollie. Really hit it dead-center.	leveymg	Sep 2012	#117
Conspiracy theories exist because the official explanations no longer make sense.	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#126
"When it can be established	OnyxCollie	Sep 2012	#127
Oh, but didn't you know, that's conspiracy theory.	backscatter712	Sep 2012	#133
Democratic Underground, LLC is impervious to such infiltration.	OnyxCollie	Sep 2012	#138
This needs a thread of its own to make sure more people see it.	1monster	Sep 2012	#157
I posted it in GD a couple weeks ago. Got locked and told to take it to Creative Speculation.	backscatter712	Sep 2012	#169
Thank you. nt	woo me with science	Sep 2012	#183
+1	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#125
Exactly. But be careful calling the astroturfers astroturfers.	backscatter712	Sep 2012	#64
They are here,	woo me with science	Sep 2012	#186
Well said. And your observation is worth repeating. Please let me borrow a portion:	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#98
don't forget supporting the nuclear power industry.	iemitsu	Sep 2012	#163
No, sorry, that's a pretty stupid assertion, I'm afraid.	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#129
An excellent post. Rape apologia requires a lot of explanation, though, which is why	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#148
And it has not occurred to you that there is available evidence in this case which	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#172
That's nice, congratulations	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#187
Oh please.	woo me with science	Sep 2012	#194
He is not charged with or wanted for rape. You still are not in possession of the facts	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#196
No, I am in possession of the facts	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#207
Obviously you are not in possession of the facts. He is wanted for QUESTIONING.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#209
He is not "wanted for questioning"	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#210
He is wanted for questioning.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#213
No, he is not merely "wanted for questioning".	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2012	#216
"... In the Swedish system formal indictment takes place at a very late stage in proceedings,	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#225
Again he is wanted for questioning, that is all. There are no charges filed. I am well	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#229
... In this matter, the prosecutor’s deliberations resulted in a request for the detention	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#244
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#223
and yet they will relentlessly say otherwise	fascisthunter	Sep 2012	#171
Not this Liberal either.	99Forever	Sep 2012	#7
Just the opposite...	SidDithers	Sep 2012	#8
not ignoring them	Enrique	Sep 2012	#18
I ignore nothing-but focus	fredamae	Sep 2012	#29
Pesky liberals and their support of whistle blowers.	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#40
There are no sex charges against Assange. That is why Liberals	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#79
Take it up with the OP...	SidDithers	Sep 2012	#115
Then why did not correct it?	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#135
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#265
Is that your experience in Canada? Are liberals in Canada the same as liberals in the US?	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#104
...	SidDithers	Sep 2012	#109
There are no sex charges against Assange. How often do you need to be	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#200
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#266
Hero worship gets in the way of a rational discussion of this.	randome	Sep 2012	#9
This message was self-deleted by its author	marmar	Sep 2012	#10
So does strident labeling of anyone who questions the charges as being afflicted by "hero worship"	marmar	Sep 2012	#11
Not at all.	randome	Sep 2012	#13
If Assange "steps out" in Sweden, he could be "Siegelmann"'d	Doctor_J	Sep 2012	#23
After two years of letting him play the appeals process for all it was worth...	randome	Sep 2012	#25
Nothing has changed because of Assange??	Doctor_J	Sep 2012	#30
No nothing, and giving him credit for every single thing that happened	treestar	Sep 2012	#191
There are a few countries in this world that would totally disagree with you on that.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#234
Assange "stole"???	1monster	Sep 2012	#45
I suppose the correct statement is that Manning stole the documents.	randome	Sep 2012	#83
Oh, so now you are condemning him for NOT stealing.	1monster	Sep 2012	#159
Not at all. How could you interpret it that way?	treestar	Sep 2012	#192
"letting him play the appeals process for all it was worth"	JDPriestly	Sep 2012	#53
Is breaking the terms of his bail part of the process, too?	randome	Sep 2012	#54
Purely silly	treestar	Sep 2012	#190
Narcissism isn't against the law in any country, as far as I'm aware. If the women themselves	1monster	Sep 2012	#31
Exactly. The world is watching.	randome	Sep 2012	#35
President Obama dosen't flinch at "taking out" actual and supposed enemies and	1monster	Sep 2012	#42
Yes, justice is always up to us.	randome	Sep 2012	#48
You know what? I don't care what you think. Especially since you are using	1monster	Sep 2012	#63
Have you a link for "has refused to cooperate with the Swedish police", please?	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#108
Its been a while since I read it, but will try to find it for you...	1monster	Sep 2012	#168
Opening Post, second paragraph	1monster	Sep 2012	#174
That's just an American writer claiming it, in an opinion piece	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#175
You still haven't read the damned police interview protocols, have you n/t	reorg	Sep 2012	#176
Yes, I did (nt)	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#178
Apparently, Sweden is a unique jurisdiction...a person reports acts, and then	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#180
And being a narcissist means he is a rapist.	JDPriestly	Sep 2012	#47
I asked you before but you have not answered: Where do you see this hero-worship, and who	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#99
+1000! eom	BlueMTexpat	Sep 2012	#32
How else to explain an utter inability to distinguish the	treestar	Sep 2012	#189
What are you talking about? Repetez en anglais, s'il vous plait.	marmar	Sep 2012	#198
And who would be these 'hero worshippers' you speak of?	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#85
I agree	liberal_at_heart	Sep 2012	#144
Nope. Unless of course you automatically believe that women lie about assault.	Honeycombe8	Sep 2012	#12
Red herring and diversion.	ananda	Sep 2012	#14
You're not denying the charges? You just think he should get a free pass?	randome	Sep 2012	#15
TYFYC. nt	valerief	Sep 2012	#60
You're welcome.	randome	Sep 2012	#67
Why, if they have a case, have they not filed it?	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#82
So you're saying that this grand conspiracy against Assange...	randome	Sep 2012	#84
I stated a fact. There are still no charges against Assange after two, long years where it was	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#88
You already know the answer to that.	randome	Sep 2012	#93
And you already know that this excuse has been debunked over and over again. Even they	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#95
So the conspirators leave that big a hole in their plans?	randome	Sep 2012	#100
Resorting again to personal attacks, but you still have not answered the question nearly	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#105
I don't think I added 'personal attacks' to my arguments.	randome	Sep 2012	#113
It is not correct to say that Sweden could not arrest someone in London. They are a member	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#110
He was arrested for return to Sweden, though, isn't that it?	randome	Sep 2012	#114
Um, a Swedish court has ordered his arrest: the Swedes want him back in Sweden to arrest him	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#253
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list Vi	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#267
Lies, lies and lies are all you are offering. Assange was cleared and allowed to leave	1monster	Sep 2012	#34
Assange left Sweden the day before his scheduled interview with the prosecutor	hack89	Sep 2012	#240
Assange had no scheduled interview with the prosecutor.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#286
No - the lawyer admits under oath that he lied before	hack89	Sep 2012	#290
I don't care what the lawyer did. You made the false claim that Assange had	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#293
There was a scheduled appointment - the lawyer admits to it.	hack89	Sep 2012	#297
"... In cross-examination the Swedish lawyer confirmed that paragraph 13 of his proof of evidence is	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#251
Well, if he had run, you would have a point. But he did not run. In fact he went to the police	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#92
The Assange defense lied about that in UK court, and the UK court caught them lying:	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#252
The defense did not lie, the defense like many defense attorneys do every day	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#289
Assange's attorney admitted to the court he had made untrue claims -- yet you repeat those claims	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#294
What the lawyer and the prosecutor did is not relevant to what Assange did.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#296
No, I believe a woman when she says 'there was no rape'. Why would anyone not believe her?	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#97
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#276
God damn it ! THERE ARE NO CHARGES !	Swagman	Sep 2012	#282
There is a valid arrest order from a Swedish court, which has withstood several appeals	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#295
Glad you brought up the 'valid arrest warrant'. There is doubt as to whether that arrest	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#298
The matter's been litigated thoroughly in both the UK and Sweden. The Swedish court's arrest order	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#299
The matter of the legitimacy of the warrant has been raised and has not been litigated	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#300
Warrant validity was the central topic in the UK cases. Assange lost. The cases are here:	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#301
It has not been litigated in Sweden. The issue has been raised in Sweden and	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#303
K&R	Cleita	Sep 2012	#16
Only the ones without critical thinking skills. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Sep 2012	#17
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#19
Only the liberals who have	OnyxCollie	Sep 2012	#20
Not this liberal...	AnneD	Sep 2012	#21
Ha! Rove?	randome	Sep 2012	#37
Need to read the link....	KoKo	Sep 2012	#38
Sorry.	randome	Sep 2012	#43
Yes, Rove, glad you brought it up. Rove has been, oh so coincidentally, in the background	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#101
I hear he's related to Kevin Bacon, too.	randome	Sep 2012	#103
Let me try again to keep this discussion on an adult level. Why has the prosecutor	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#106
Got any evidence of that? I'm sure you are not trying to be funny since you apparently take	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#107
I think nothing of Rove, the criminal 'mastermind' behind Palin, Romney & Akin.	randome	Sep 2012	#120
So you believe that he is a war criminal.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#128
LOL!...	SidDithers	Sep 2012	#118
Not everywhere, but definitely and coincidentally in Sweden at just the 'right' time.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#231
Rove and his dirty tricks.....	AnneD	Sep 2012	#228
If you remember he was being questioned by Congress for his role in the firing of the US	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#232
That will be one...	AnneD	Sep 2012	#233
Some of our peeps are a little like the Dittiots	Doctor_J	Sep 2012	#22
From someone whose favorite group is the gungeon!	valerief	Sep 2012	#61
An ad hominem fallacy is the best that you've got? That's it?	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#102
Yeah, a poll in gungeon wouldn't be biased.	valerief	Sep 2012	#132
Selection bias in that poll.	ElboRuum	Sep 2012	#302
I miss UnRec	krawhitham	Sep 2012	#24
Yes.	a2liberal	Sep 2012	#26
It's one of the easiest ways to manipulate liberals.	The Doctor.	Sep 2012	#27
and I seriously doubt they are liberals	fascisthunter	Sep 2012	#28
If there are two 'sides' to the Assange story...	randome	Sep 2012	#36
Invectives such as "rape apologist" you mean? nt	Bonobo	Sep 2012	#41
'Rape apologists'.	randome	Sep 2012	#46
"Rape apologist" is more offensive than any of the ones you listed.	Bonobo	Sep 2012	#50
There are invectives from both sides, I agree.	randome	Sep 2012	#51
Yes there are two sides and it's not the liberal side that wants	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#44
This liberal does not want to 'lynch' anyone.	randome	Sep 2012	#49
Then we agree. However, in an earlier post I believe you called him	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#81
The Swedish Prosecutors are entirely responsible for the	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#164
Such as your own comments in this thread dismissing those who actually want to see	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#143
I don't want to see any evidence because it's none of my business.	randome	Sep 2012	#147
Well that has been obvious, 'I don't want to see any evidence'.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#166
Brava! Papable hit. Valid point!	1monster	Sep 2012	#185
x2	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#217
+1000	valerief	Sep 2012	#56
self-delete; dupe	valerief	Sep 2012	#62
BS. Why is this case the litmus test for whether a person is a liberal?	treestar	Sep 2012	#193
No, but right-wingers who pose as liberals on liberal websites	brentspeak	Sep 2012	#33
+1000	valerief	Sep 2012	#57
+1000 more!	backscatter712	Sep 2012	#66
Bullseye! Thread win for total succinct accuracy. nt	Zorra	Sep 2012	#74
K&R	KoKo	Sep 2012	#39
Only those 'posing' as liberals claim to believe this shit.	valerief	Sep 2012	#55
From my observations, I've seen quite the opposite reaction among liberals to the charges	Cirque du So-What	Sep 2012	#59
But I thought Obama wanted Assange 'put away'.	randome	Sep 2012	#68
Obama is a centrist, not a liberal. We liberals wish he was a liberal. Oh, yeah, and	valerief	Sep 2012	#134
Yeah, but I don't think a centrist would be out to 'get' Assange.	randome	Sep 2012	#137
K&R'd.	snot	Sep 2012	#70
No, he needs to face those charges.	alarimer	Sep 2012	#71
There are NO fucking charges to face, "serious" or otherwise.	99Forever	Sep 2012	#87
Whatever you or Sweden want to call them, the facts are...	randome	Sep 2012	#89
And again, you leave out one very important fact. Assange has been available for questioning	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#141
Save your imperiosa argumentum...	99Forever	Sep 2012	#170
The only reason I repeatedly respond to this posters comments	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#199
It takes energy to do what you are doing to set the facts straight, and I thank you.	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#220
What charges? He has never been charged?	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#116
In my experience no one is ever too eager to believe rape charges, particularly against a celebrity.	D23MIURG23	Sep 2012	#72
I see the opposite in this case. I see a concerted effort to believe the rape	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#173
HUH? I'm a liberal....	Iggy	Sep 2012	#73
What were the women wearing? Did they lead him on?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2012	#75
You should really do some Googling before you post something like that.	randome	Sep 2012	#78
Far more important than any of that, THEY DENIED THERE WAS ANY RAPE.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#121
Did they say that there was NO SEXUAL ASSAULT OF ANY KIND?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2012	#149
They stated that there was no threat to them, that they were never in danger	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#161
Well, if that is true, then Assange should be able to win easily in Sweden	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#245
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#277
In what way, exactly, are those who have abandoned the presumption of innocence "liberals"?	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#76
You haven't been keeping up with the case since 2010, it seems	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#124
You are claiming to have special expertise on an issue of which you obviously do not such expertise.	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#206
'All lawyers'? Totally wrong. You apparently are the one not keeping up with this case.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#238
This is not about success in court; it's about when the allegation is 'rape'	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#239
Some interesting excerpts from Donald Boström's statement:	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#287
Note that the rape allegation is about Sofia, not the woman Boström refers to (nt)	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#288
Sofia went to the police initially,	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#291
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list V	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#268
There are a few DUers here who'll do everything they can to smear Assange.	Alduin	Sep 2012	#77
Really? In a country that brought us...	KansDem	Sep 2012	#86
Liberals? Why are we getting dumped on again?	Rex	Sep 2012	#91
Bizarre question. nt	bemildred	Sep 2012	#94
K&R You got five of them to come out so far. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Sep 2012	#112
I neither believe or disbelieve those charges.	MineralMan	Sep 2012	#119
It is all moot, you're right.	randome	Sep 2012	#122
And all three of those who were there have said 'there was no rape'.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#142
Did they say that to you, Sabrina 1?	MineralMan	Sep 2012	#181
No, I have it directly from the evidence.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#230
"the public’s desire to see officials investigate rape/crimes against women is being exploited"	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#123
Too bad for Assange that he wasn't accused of torture or banking fraud.	OnyxCollie	Sep 2012	#130
If he's wanted by Sweden, he's definitely guilty	MannyGoldstein	Sep 2012	#131
You left Karl Rove out of your tin-foil theory, Manny....nt	SidDithers	Sep 2012	#136
Yes, he did. But I did not. Karl Rove fled to Sweden when he was wanted here by	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#140
Did you have any specific comments regarding facts?	MannyGoldstein	Sep 2012	#226
Sweeden needs to back off on Assange. (nt)	w4rma	Sep 2012	#139
Here's how George Galloway put it...	Nye Bevan	Sep 2012	#152
"Shooting George Galloway in the face isn't murder! It's just bad gun etiquette!"	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#158
Probably.	Robb	Sep 2012	#145
I think there are people on both sides of this issue	liberal_at_heart	Sep 2012	#146
Wypijewski's piece shows just how much analytical power the Left has lost, by abandoning	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#150
Wrong. The analytical powers of the left have never been stronger.	Zorra	Sep 2012	#165
Your peculiar belief, that everyone who disagrees with you is a rightwinger, can serve	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#197
Your peculiar penchant for trashing the left and leftists has	Zorra	Sep 2012	#202
Your peculiar belief, that everyone who disagrees with you is a rightwinger, can serve	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#212
LOL! Bush: "See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again	Zorra	Sep 2012	#247
At the risk of being flamed to death...	renie408	Sep 2012	#153
Wikileaks is sacred here	liberal_at_heart	Sep 2012	#155
it's nothing to do with wikileaks being 'sacred'. i personally have doubts about what wikileaks	HiPointDem	Sep 2012	#221
Yeah, it is a mystery, isn't it?	randome	Sep 2012	#156
Authoritarian government	woo me with science	Sep 2012	#182
Did you recognize that you use the word "Americans' in the exact same way a	renie408	Sep 2012	#214
It IS interesting!	OnyxCollie	Sep 2012	#218
Some people were so thrilled with Wikileaks	treestar	Sep 2012	#195
Wow	Fla_Democrat	Sep 2012	#154
TPTB know how to turn......	DeSwiss	Sep 2012	#167
That's because "Israel Shamir" who authored that rumour (at your link) is well known in Sweden	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#179
Yep. Note the mantra.	woo me with science	Sep 2012	#184
Many people come here simply to find out what happened	Herlong	Sep 2012	#177
What we believe does not matter	treestar	Sep 2012	#188
Is that philosophy true across the boards or just when you find it a good arguing point.	Bonobo	Sep 2012	#201
Pretty much. A legal system is to make it go by the evidence	treestar	Sep 2012	#285
What we know is that the prosecutor has evaded and obfuscated and avoided filing	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#204
OMG. enough is enough. Time to trash this thread. Good ridance.	liberal_at_heart	Sep 2012	#205
I believe he should answer the charges, assuming neither guilt nor innocence.	AtomicKitten	Sep 2012	#208
Well, that's up to the prosecutor. He already voluntary spoke to the police. But the prosecutor	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#211
The Assange defense lied about that in UK court, and the UK court caught them lying:	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#270
You "believe he should answer the charges" when no charges have been brought by a prosecutor?	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#215
Charges as in formal allegation. 'Kay? Knock off the semantics BS.	AtomicKitten	Sep 2012	#219
"semantics BS"? Is that different from your "BS"?	AnotherMcIntosh	Sep 2012	#222
You clearly do not value (nor are familiar with) Sweden's legal due process.	AtomicKitten	Sep 2012	#224
extradition is NOT used merely to ask questions	daeron	Sep 2012	#227
And you clearly do not understand Sweden's legal due process. A process that so far	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#237
Before accusing others of unfamiliarity with facts..	girl gone mad	Sep 2012	#284
What is a 'formal allegation'? Is that a new legal term?	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#236
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#271
"... In the Swedish system formal indictment takes place at a very late stage in proceedings,	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#272
The Stockholm District Court has ordered Assange's arrest. He appealed twice but lost	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#273
There are no charges. If there ever are, then maybe he can answer them.	sabrina 1	Sep 2012	#235
Besides the charges on his arrest warrant you mean? nt	hack89	Sep 2012	#241
Hack's back. How about answering my questions on your standards as the arbiter of a sex crime	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#242
Still denying reality I see?	hack89	Sep 2012	#243
Nice try hack. The women didn't report a crime, they went for an HIV test	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#246
So why are they still pursuing the issue?	hack89	Sep 2012	#248
If you answer my questions first, I'll answer yours.	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#249
None of that is rape if it was consensual.	hack89	Sep 2012	#250
I wouldn't. And neither did the women in Sweden. But you are saying you get to decide	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#255
So where did the detailed and graphic description found in the arrest warrant	hack89	Sep 2012	#256
I just told you the exact same thing happened to me this morning and I am a-ok with that.	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#259
Why are you ignoring the three other charges?	hack89	Sep 2012	#261
So why did the women describe an sexual assault?	hack89	Sep 2012	#257
NO! The women didn't describe sexual assault!	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#260
I don't think you have shown me any such interview.	hack89	Sep 2012	#262
.	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#263
So these women have made no public comment since 2010?	hack89	Sep 2012	#264
The same woman didn't think it was rape, but did think it was assault	tammywammy	Sep 2012	#281
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#278
"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#274
The Stockholm District Court has ordered Assange's arrest. He appealed twice but lost	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#275
I would ask the opposite question.	mzmolly	Sep 2012	#254
I can't dismissed the allegations that she was a CIA operative	Ichingcarpenter	Sep 2012	#258
I thought there was more than one	mzmolly	Sep 2012	#269
There were two women involved. n/t	tammywammy	Sep 2012	#283
Yes--you can dismiss those allegations....they are completely fabricated by a nasty little man	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#292
and they are not victims : they are 'alleged victims' just as the accused has	Swagman	Sep 2012	#280

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