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hlthe2b

(105,505 posts) Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:33 PM Sep 2019

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Nicely stated: former ethics chief Richard Painter on impeachment [View all]

We’re tired of the argument that impeachment is useless because the senate will acquit. Acquittal of @realDonaldTrump in 2020 by Moscow Mitch et al. may happen, but will have the same credibility as an all white jury acquitting a Mississippi Klansman in 1965. Voters know that.

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Nicely stated: former ethics chief Richard Painter on impeachment [View all] hlthe2b Sep 2019 OP

Situation is not that black and white. Timing is crucial. empedocles Sep 2019 #1

It is a concept being discussed not an immediate directive. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #7

The Speaker's operating position is much more nuanced than a Senate acquittal makes empedocles Sep 2019 #8

I don't necessarily disagree with the precise timing issue, but the argument that is addressed hlthe2b Sep 2019 #9

The key is winning the House and Senate, and what it takes to get there. empedocles Sep 2019 #16

Successfully timed impeachment must remove him from office wryter2000 Sep 2019 #17

I think the timing reflects a need to do so to fully inform (and perhaps incite) the populace just hlthe2b Sep 2019 #22

Exactly wryter2000 Sep 2019 #30

Timing is important. That includes waiting too long. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #23

time is not on our side bdamomma Sep 2019 #48

Yeah the sooner the better. Should have happened already, triron Sep 2019 #14

Yes Timing is crucial. It needs to start NOW. spanone Sep 2019 #61

It HAS atarted StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #62

It will also put a permanent stain on his historical record. Ego ... Guilded Lilly Sep 2019 #2

yes, but stopdiggin Sep 2019 #3

American public is badly misled by complicit media. triron Sep 2019 #15

and an unfortunate amount stopdiggin Sep 2019 #24

shaking things up bdamomma Sep 2019 #49

unfortunately, again. it's not, by a long shot, confined to Rs! stopdiggin Sep 2019 #57

Well put. world wide wally Sep 2019 #4

impeachment is underway Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #5

100+ True Blue American Sep 2019 #12

I could sure use more public hearings wryter2000 Sep 2019 #20

Doesn't seem that way. I know you are correct berni_mccoy Sep 2019 #29

Nancy hasn't said impeachment is underway SHRED Sep 2019 #31

Get all of the repub senators on record. panader0 Sep 2019 #6

"Voters know that" - I disagree gratuitous Sep 2019 #10

Yes, and of course Trump won't give a sh*t because himself and Republicans will paint it as a OnDoutside Sep 2019 #42

Well said BigOleDummy Sep 2019 #11

So what happens when... Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #13

Dems in Congress don't get to say who gets charged with crimes. wryter2000 Sep 2019 #21

Then what are they waiting for? Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #40

that's happened a few times bdamomma Sep 2019 #50

Yeah Catch2.2 Sep 2019 #54

Exactly. nt KPN Sep 2019 #18

Whether an acquittal has 'credibility' or not is not the issue. Aristus Sep 2019 #19

And another thing SayItLoud Sep 2019 #25

I don't think it'll change anyone's opinion of Donnie Two Scoops either way. marble falls Sep 2019 #26

Speaker Pelosi has a different objective in mind FakeNoose Sep 2019 #27

He has a hell of a lot zentrum Sep 2019 #28

Did the President break the law? SHRED Sep 2019 #32

Yes, he clearly seems to have, but there is a reason that is not the standard... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #33

a lot of people just cannot seem to understand that Skittles Sep 2019 #34

Oh, Nancy won't like this. egduj Sep 2019 #35

Many, warmfeet Sep 2019 #36

Of course that's true. soldierant Sep 2019 #37

If you watched Rachel the other night, you saw her talk about two things Trump did: PatrickforO Sep 2019 #38

yes, like how many bdamomma Sep 2019 #52

Impeachment proceedings have already begun StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #58

Acknowledged. They have indeed. PatrickforO Sep 2019 #60

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2019 #39

K&R. Mike Niendorff Sep 2019 #41

Impeachment isn't useless IF it moves public opinion in Hortensis Sep 2019 #43

Painter has been complaining all summer that the Democrats hadn't moved on impeachment StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #44

We have moved forward with impeachment investigation, Hortensis Sep 2019 #47

Articles of impeachment are drafted and voted on AFTER the investigation StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #56

I didn't realize he was claiming it didn't start over a month ago Hortensis Sep 2019 #59

They don't even have to send it on to the Senate. calimary Sep 2019 #46

Yes! A very interesting option, if it holds legally. Hortensis Sep 2019 #53

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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! calimary Sep 2019 #45