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flotsam

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43. Here's the thing

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:33 PM

Aug 2019

The uncertified guard would never have "fallen asleep" unless the trained guard said it was ok, unless they were paid. If the certified guard actually told the newbie "We ALL sleep every night" then a routine check of logs against corridor cameras should result in dozens fired and criminally charged. And that is your tell-tale-if there is no mass firing it was a set-up. Never believe it was common practice unless that is exposed-and even then the fact it was common practice may be used to cover criminal malfeasance.

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Jeffrey Epstein died -- after both guards 'fell asleep': report [View all] TheBlackAdder Aug 2019 OP

Did they fall asleep? HipChick Aug 2019 #1

It is probably that they weren't prepared to do that shift. madaboutharry Aug 2019 #6

I have heard the place is way understaffed rufus dog Aug 2019 #7

I heard they are understaffed because marlakay Aug 2019 #33

Endless overtime shifts in an understaffed facility can be exhausting. Of course, the prison tblue37 Aug 2019 #10

Or they were paid to say they fell asleep...be the fall guys. Everything about this death smells. brush Aug 2019 #11

Likely scenario. triron Aug 2019 #13

That was my first thought. llmart Aug 2019 #29

You Can Bank RobinA Aug 2019 #38

Yes, but wherever they are supposed to be at the time would be in view of a camera, right? llmart Aug 2019 #42

Cash payments that can't be traced to their bank accounts. ooky Aug 2019 #36

That was my first thought as well. alittlelark Aug 2019 #31

Or perhaps they were threatened, blackmailed...what's for sure is there were a whole lot Amaryllis Aug 2019 #44

How many other suicides has this Center had this year? n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #2

That's a good question. StarryNite Aug 2019 #24

The Warden should be fired. madaboutharry Aug 2019 #3

She ... Name sounds like PoC ... just sayin' (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #12

Oddly, a fairly common name jberryhill Aug 2019 #14

Another DU'er said the Warden was female, I believed them ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #18

People named Lamine appear to be overwhelmingly male jberryhill Aug 2019 #20

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #23

What the.... tanyev Aug 2019 #4

Sure they did. C_U_L8R Aug 2019 #5

You're closest to the truth here. triron Aug 2019 #9

You'd think El Chapo could have just walked out of this place with his experience spanone Aug 2019 #8

UNPOSSIBLE! jberryhill Aug 2019 #15

Your preferred explanation is not nearly as 'Occam's Razor' as you seem to think, JBH mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #19

So... jberryhill Aug 2019 #21

Someone in authority shows up and says 'don't worry, we got you covered, just write this down' ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #25

The highest profile prisoner in the entire American penal system- the one who was the most important NBachers Aug 2019 #16

OR, it's a heist. A mild sedative in the coffee pot, spirited away... lostnfound Aug 2019 #27

Check their bank accounts RainCaster Aug 2019 #17

Too obvious. Most likely they received sacks of money. ooky Aug 2019 #37

They have a nice retirement fund somewhere... TRUST JCMach1 Aug 2019 #40

Sounds very unlikely. Two guards, both asleep at the same time? n/t Raven Aug 2019 #22

Not Only Likely RobinA Aug 2019 #41

My neighbor's son in law is a guard in a federal prison srobertss Aug 2019 #26

Anyone would fall asleep if continually forced to work 80 hour weeks. Vinca Aug 2019 #28

Yep. The "Drown the Government in a bath tub" crowd should be thrilled. GoCubsGo Aug 2019 #30

Show me the surveillance footage of them sleeping... Talitha Aug 2019 #32

Metropolitan Correctional Center is an abysmal, third-world-rate prison in general. sir pball Aug 2019 #34

I tend to believe this Buckeyeblue Aug 2019 #35

Shit rolls downhill; this death will be blamed on the lowest ranking employees they can scapegoat. cwydro Aug 2019 #39

Here's the thing flotsam Aug 2019 #43