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In reply to the discussion: Epstein's jailers claim he was removed from suicide watch at request of his defense lawyers. [View all]Ponietz
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Epstein's jailers claim he was removed from suicide watch at request of his defense lawyers. [View all]
pnwmom
Aug 2019
OP
Actually, defense lawyers can persuade jail staff, or a judge, to change conditions of confinement.
Shrike47
Aug 2019
#39
And did his defense lawyer also asked to remove his cellmate, and not check on him every
LisaL
Aug 2019
#6
It's not likely that he was taken off of suicide watch just because he and his lawyers asked
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#50
Nice try: "Manning lawyer: Suicide joke led to stripping". You are conflating different events
jberryhill
Aug 2019
#56
Since when does a fed prison under DOJ rules listen to a defense attorney?
Claritie Pixie
Aug 2019
#16
I read the post to indicate that the authority for the change had to come from admin
Ponietz
Aug 2019
#46
This is the problem with making assumptions without information or knowledge
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#54
Given your background in criminal defense, it's surprising you're so dismissive of the
StarfishSaver
Aug 2019
#60
The "Sky is green" folk also think the Barr DOJ should be given some benefit of the doubt
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#111
I can't imagine how they had a medical justification for taking a patient off suicide watch
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#68
What? You seem to be saying Barr personally controls conditions of confinement. No.
Shrike47
Aug 2019
#42
Something tells me the prison admin and guards didn't see Epstein as a means to take
Hoyt
Aug 2019
#37
As much as it may pain me to say it, listen to Berryhill. What the lawyers did was normal.
Shrike47
Aug 2019
#45
Bottom line is the guards might as well have left Epstein alone in a room with a loaded pistol,
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#62
I still wonder who with access to this guy had a large deposit in their accounts afterwards.
redstatebluegirl
Aug 2019
#64
A prisoner is allowed to have legal representatives seek modification of their detention conditions
jberryhill
Aug 2019
#70
But would you need criminal defense lawyers to defend against a potential malpractice claim?
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#80
I agree. So why would they need a criminal lawyer, the kind of lawyer they are said to have hired,
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#84
Or maybe they are protecting themselves from criminal exposure not related to his death.
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#90
That they're not the anonymous "legal experts" you implied that they were. (Post 91.)
pnwmom
Aug 2019
#106