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PDJane

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1. I very much hope you are right.

Reply to superpatriotman (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:22 PM

Aug 2012

I don't think that there's any reason to be sanguine, considering the things that are going on in Michigan, and Florida and Ohio. There is blatant vote-rigging going on and a lack of paper trails.

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Michael Moore: Romney will win in November [View all] superpatriotman Aug 2012 OP

I very much hope you are right. PDJane Aug 2012 #1

Who do you hope is right? About what? pnwmom Aug 2012 #36

presumably about the American Idol type vote, in which Obama would win renate Aug 2012 #61

Sorry, he's right. Now that the PCW has left and I have a coffee, PDJane Aug 2012 #81

I respect Michael Moore get the red out Aug 2012 #2

I agree completely. bamacrat Aug 2012 #4

Yup defeatism helps none of us. Jennicut Aug 2012 #5

Money Is No Guarantee Of Victory Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #8

but massive election fraud could very well be. Cal33 Aug 2012 #88

Possibly BUT Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #102

Hes not afraid of Rmoney... superpatriotman Aug 2012 #10

They need money to help pay for GOTV. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #38

There has already been a GOTV trial run for November milwaukeelib33 Aug 2012 #41

Romney will need solutions for the debates get the red out Aug 2012 #74

oh, please, he didn't say that, if he gave tips on how to improve voter turnout JI7 Aug 2012 #104

Because, as he points out, THEY are organized, committed, and have the enthusiasm. gateley Aug 2012 #27

And they have a handful of billionaires PatSeg Aug 2012 #57

+1000 gateley Aug 2012 #59

Interesting Story About Money Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #103

I'm sure Obama will get the popular vote, hands down. Cleita Aug 2012 #26

We're talking about a political movement that holds George Carlin up as a sort of idol Scootaloo Aug 2012 #62

"Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory" ProSense Aug 2012 #3

Or Linda McMahon sharp_stick Aug 2012 #7

it may well buy it for her this time cali Aug 2012 #24

That was one poll by Ras sharp_stick Aug 2012 #39

wrong. a new quinnipiac poll has it tied. cali Aug 2012 #77

She's still not gonna win n/t sharp_stick Aug 2012 #91

god can you imagine if she wins maryellen99 Aug 2012 #58

Obamas gonna wipe the floor with Romney Ryan. Skink Aug 2012 #6

Please be right rbrnmw Aug 2012 #11

I need a stiff drink with some herbs and spices rbrnmw Aug 2012 #9

Once more Michael Moore is talking out of his ass. Archae Aug 2012 #12

Your faith in the public is inspiring superpatriotman Aug 2012 #15

"Half fictional"?? What are you talking about? Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2012 #84

People do not get sued for slander for lying. former9thward Aug 2012 #115

truth is an absolute defense to slander. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #118

I have never heard of South Texas College of Law. former9thward Sep 2012 #119

Thanks a lot. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #120

I didn't learn about legal concepts from Wiki former9thward Sep 2012 #121

+1. And sadly, he's not the only one. Lots of "liberals" make more $$$ with a Repuke in the WH. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #95

once more Archae talks shit about a real liberal fascisthunter Aug 2012 #110

OH MIKE!!! PLEASE you have been stuffing your fat face so much it's effecting your brain bigdarryl Aug 2012 #13

Very classy post. Nice way to attack an ally . Puglover Aug 2012 #42

WTF does MM's weight have to do with anything? Webster Green Aug 2012 #47

Where did you study biology to come up with a conclusion like that? CBGLuthier Aug 2012 #72

If I stuff my face I can effect my brain? klook Aug 2012 #87

stupid fascisthunter Aug 2012 #109

Moore is usually correct, but like a stopped clock (reversed), closeupready Aug 2012 #14

He's part of the media....the closer the race is and the more we have fear, the more relevant he cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #16

Wow, that was really stupid. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2012 #17

He's just trying to scare people into taking the possibility seriously. mattclearing Aug 2012 #94

I think your subject line is misleading. Moore is trying to alert Dems to how important turnout highplainsdem Aug 2012 #18

+1. Watch the vid -- the headline (I think it was HuffPo's) doesn't tell the whole story. gateley Aug 2012 #21

Thanks! I had watched Moore, but hadn't noticed the OP had used HuffPo's headline. highplainsdem Aug 2012 #25

You're correct, but ScarlettOhara Aug 2012 #23

I didn't get that sense at all, but rather that they have the incentive (defeat Obama) whereas gateley Aug 2012 #33

"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." ScarlettOhara Aug 2012 #48

Perfect quote, ScarlettOhara! gateley Aug 2012 #51

more than that... it's purely deliberate divisive garbage fascisthunter Aug 2012 #111

MM presented some excellent points. We don't have the fire in our belly that we gateley Aug 2012 #19

agree Gately, people aren't worried, aren't always registered flamingdem Aug 2012 #20

And often aren't aware of the new voter ID laws. highplainsdem Aug 2012 #31

I am very worried about the news on Election Day flamingdem Aug 2012 #45

+1,000 freshwest Aug 2012 #29

I think it's because we were defeated by their cheating machine so many Cleita Aug 2012 #44

I don't think it's hopeless, but it is discouraging. As MM said, we need to GOTV -- that's gateley Aug 2012 #49

I hope people in critical states do. Cleita Aug 2012 #52

non presidential years are usually the ones when house & senate flip SoCalDem Aug 2012 #97

Great post, SoCalDem! Thank you! gateley Aug 2012 #99

over the years, the more i listen to moore, the less i respect him. this is just another shove seabeyond Aug 2012 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Aug 2012 #28

People!!! It's the electoral votes that they are rigging! Cleita Aug 2012 #30

+1000 - why do some of us refuse to face reality? gateley Aug 2012 #34

^^^This. nt laundry_queen Aug 2012 #86

I've seen Chomsky predict election results based on the money, and he's been right ever time 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #32

Just remember, ParkieDem Aug 2012 #43

Could be 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #78

He isn't going to WIN the election liberal N proud Aug 2012 #35

Yes, but he will be sworn into office like Chimpy Bush and we all lose. n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #37

I expect unexpected flips in key states like OH & FL. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #73

Just like 00 and 04, they have the right offices under their control liberal N proud Aug 2012 #107

Defeatist - another negative person trying to get us down treestar Aug 2012 #40

I disagree, treestar. He's not telling people to give up, he's gateley Aug 2012 #46

well Robbins Aug 2012 #50

+ 10,0000 Cleita Aug 2012 #55

This list is why I have such a hard time being friends with any repubs. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #117

It looks like a plan, doesn't it? ScarlettOhara Aug 2012 #53

a rather misleading headline given what Moore actually says in the video fishwax Aug 2012 #54

Not framed well, imo. IL Lib Aug 2012 #67

I don't know -- it's hard to tell exactly how he framed it because of the editing, but fishwax Aug 2012 #70

Thanks for the welcome! IL Lib Aug 2012 #85

That's a thought: This is so FUCKED-UP it means one thing. The. Deal. Is. Done. patrice Aug 2012 #56

Like MM says, the deal isn't done if we get out and vote. I'm thinking gateley Aug 2012 #66

I agree. There are legal efforts afoot for the vote but right now the BEST response is turnout. patrice Aug 2012 #80

Jummah at the Dnc korak Aug 2012 #60

Riiighht. And, Bambi's going to whup Godzilla in the rematch. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #63

I fear Romney is no Bambi, nor is Obama Godzilla. I envy you your confidence that there is no cause gateley Aug 2012 #71

This shows no special insight on Moore's part...we already KNOW the Koch boys could buy this one. Amerigo Vespucci Aug 2012 #64

If WE fight for this, Obama will win. gateley Aug 2012 #75

Yes, "we" was implied in my post, but I'll spell it out here Amerigo Vespucci Aug 2012 #82

I think MM is trying to send a message to Democrats - that this could happen - so get out and jillan Aug 2012 #65

+1000 gateley Aug 2012 #69

Of COURSE that is what he is trying to do. Puglover Aug 2012 #76

We don't need this right now, especially not from Michael Moore. He is depressing turnout Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #68

I totally disagree. If you watch the video, he's saying IF we get out and vote, we'll gateley Aug 2012 #89

I hope not. A few months ago he was vowing not to vote because he's angry at Obama not Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #92

I think a lot of people vowed to not vote for Obama (many here on DU!) out gateley Aug 2012 #96

I agree with you 100% here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #100

President Obama and Senator Kerry have the same DNA politicasista Aug 2012 #116

My guess is that Michael Moore is saying this to piss off progressives... LynneSin Aug 2012 #79

and this is just one of a few times when I have to say that Michael Moore is rachel1 Aug 2012 #83

Watch the vid if you haven't -- the headline is misleading. gateley Aug 2012 #90

nor would anyone have convinced me that Al Gore would lose To Dubya rbrnmw Aug 2012 #98

Fuck the UAW. Who can get excited about a president whose chief of staff says crap like this and byeya Aug 2012 #93

Pres. Obama is not responsible for your level of excitement. The issues should be enough. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #101

IIRC, Moore said Kerry would win in 2004,and by a large majority. Incitatus Aug 2012 #105

Thanks a lot, Michael. mia Aug 2012 #106

Um.. please be more honest about what he actually said! fascisthunter Aug 2012 #108

to be fair to superpatriotman, the headline is huffpo's fishwax Aug 2012 #112

it was deliberate... fascisthunter Aug 2012 #113

That's not what's gonna happen," he told Zepps. Fucked up Op and headline. Ellipsis Aug 2012 #114