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In reply to the discussion: Does Pelosi need a majority in the House to start Impeachment hearings? [View all]Gothmog
(145,130 posts)44. Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Have The Votes To Impeach Trump
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Pelosis majority includes 31 members who represent districts Trump carried in 2016 and could face electoral danger. Impeachment might accomplish little more than energizing Trump 2020 voters.
Close Pelosi allies insist she couldnt gain majority support for impeachment even if she tried, not to mention the two-thirds of a Republican-run Senate needed for conviction and removal from office. There will never be 218 in the House, a leadership aide told me.....
The votes arent there. The 31 Democrats who represent districts that Donald Trump won in 2016 can see that impeachment is not popular with voters in general. If these nearly three dozen Democrats want to win second terms and keep the House in Democratic hands, they feel the need to stay far away from impeachment.
Blaming Pelosi is both easy, and it displays a fundamental ignorance of the dynamics of this Democratic House majority.
Robert Muellers testimony was an important step, but unless public opinion changes and a whole bunch of House Democrats change their minds, impeachment wont happen in the House before the 2020 election.
Close Pelosi allies insist she couldnt gain majority support for impeachment even if she tried, not to mention the two-thirds of a Republican-run Senate needed for conviction and removal from office. There will never be 218 in the House, a leadership aide told me.....
The votes arent there. The 31 Democrats who represent districts that Donald Trump won in 2016 can see that impeachment is not popular with voters in general. If these nearly three dozen Democrats want to win second terms and keep the House in Democratic hands, they feel the need to stay far away from impeachment.
Blaming Pelosi is both easy, and it displays a fundamental ignorance of the dynamics of this Democratic House majority.
Robert Muellers testimony was an important step, but unless public opinion changes and a whole bunch of House Democrats change their minds, impeachment wont happen in the House before the 2020 election.
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Does Pelosi need a majority in the House to start Impeachment hearings? [View all]
ProfessorPlum
Jul 2019
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I would think that any committee chair could initiate the hearings but I think they would look to
Autumn
Jul 2019
#3
I don't believe that there aren't enough votes -Look at the list of Democrats that haven't announced
Pachamama
Jul 2019
#36
you don't bring something to the floor without the votes...and there is a very real chance
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#27
No, they can start hearings that head towards impeachment and have damn near the same
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#5
Yep, its starting to look like this. Pelosi has an uphill climb because of not holding BushCo ...
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#17
No, they haven't "called off the 2020 elections" - and that will happen ONLY if enough Democrats
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#19
Correct, that's why I type "effectively" ... they don't have enough minerals to call off the ...
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#21
If you think "impeachment is about all we got" you're really saying they've called off the election
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#26
... effectively ... yes, I don't see how 2020 is going to be more free and fair than 2016 or 18
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#30
How would that be influencing people not to excecise their power to call their reps and demand
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#33
He will stonewall impeachment too...he doesn't care about prececdent or laws...and the moderates
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#28
Moderates can do the right thing and keep their seats if there's justificaton for their actions.
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#29
Sorry that is completely unrealistic...if impeachment is unpopular and moderates do it anyway...
Demsrule86
Jul 2019
#52
Nixon impeachment 40% Trump impeachment 45%, ... the polls are either lying or they're not
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#53
+1, I wonder if it was like this during beginning of Nixon impeachment process
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#18
Cool, and impeachment became more popular after the process began it looks like. I pray Red Dons
uponit7771
Jul 2019
#22
Actually, impeachment became more popular BEFORE the impeachment inquiry was opened
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#23
Yes - those were the Senate Select Committee hearings in the spring and summer of '73
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#25
""For example, the impeachment process isn't started by 'drafting articles of impeachment.' We just
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#43
You don't seem to understand the distinction between the committee "considering Articles"
StarfishSaver
Jul 2019
#51