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stillcool

(32,626 posts)
4. well...jeeze...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jul 2019

maybe the states should count the paper votes they have, and see if it matches the total? Might be too much to ask of the Secretary of State, in many of the states with big voting issues. They probably burn whatever ballots they have asap.

Thanks for posting JonLP24 Jul 2019 #1
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jul 2019 #2
Malaise..the OP needs to be either taken down or rewritten..I am reading the report..nowhere does it asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #14
I see your point malaise Jul 2019 #20
I'm with you on this. See below for link to actual report - not that long, worth our own read. MFGsunny Jul 2019 #28
Tks MFGsunny..been reading..am totally beside myself with this incorrect information.. asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #29
I stand by my OP...Russia RIGGED this...truth will out Baltimike Jul 2019 #94
Russia did not have sex with the US electoral systems !! Come on, they did everything and that uponit7771 Jul 2019 #49
For now...we just don't know...for someone to say votes were changed without asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #54
NOPE. For someone to connect the dots is absolutely patriotic Baltimike Jul 2019 #60
With you on this point totally. triron Jul 2019 #62
I wish I could help you - I tried....why are you swearing and yelling... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #63
I realize your post was not addressed to me but why do you believe what you said? triron Jul 2019 #65
What are you referring to??? asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #66
and I wish you could realize that I don't need your fucking help Baltimike Jul 2019 #95
I'm with you. Need more people like you in congress. triron Jul 2019 #96
Thank you... Baltimike Jul 2019 #103
I absolutely believe they switched votes crimycarny Jul 2019 #106
The Princeton Election Consortium gave HRC a 99+% chance of winning. triron Jul 2019 #107
exactly...drip, drip, drip...they did this that and the other Baltimike Jul 2019 #108
plus one questionseverything Jul 2019 #70
Again, you're asking for proof that Russia changed votes when everything less than that can still... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #67
How about Georgia- 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #72
You don't know what it says since it's so heavily redacted. triron Jul 2019 #50
Wow...I do not know if votes were changed..I read the report..redacted yup.. asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #52
It goes both ways. We can't assume votes weren't changed and there is circumstantial evidence that triron Jul 2019 #59
I will await the breaking news bulletin...votes were changed - until then - I am not in the camp asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #64
Awesome that you will at least wait instead of maintain it didn't happen Baltimike Jul 2019 #104
That's for helping the Russians accomplish thier mission. UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #134
2nd that. triron Jul 2019 #138
Is it something I said, as many here have expressed - sad to come back 'round asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #142
Perhaps we're being overdramatic. The facts likely won't appear because we are not allowed to know. triron Jul 2019 #143
Another quote from most honorable son. something is true "if and only if" something else was true asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #144
In logic, 'if and only if' mean equivalent. triron Jul 2019 #145
Also if you have a implies b and a is true then b is true. However if you only have b is true, a is triron Jul 2019 #146
See post #11 too...n/t asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #18
BINGO! cmeneer Jul 2019 #3
welcome to DU. Baltimike Jul 2019 #5
My question is why. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2019 #27
well...jeeze... stillcool Jul 2019 #4
I bet they did destroy evidence Baltimike Jul 2019 #6
No longer anything like a surprise. Wouldn't it be Hortensis Jul 2019 #7
I may have 17 pages to go in Volumn 1 of this Senate report..so I will just say this asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #8
Watched a video of a Wellstone ruled Jul 2019 #9
I believe it. They only needed to flip a handful of votes from HRC Ilsa Jul 2019 #10
+1. There is a reason European countries don't allow electronic voting dalton99a Jul 2019 #19
actually, probably not from HRC to dipshit, but more likely to Stein anarch Jul 2019 #76
Then more flipping would be required. nt Ilsa Jul 2019 #77
Probably a combination of strategies were used. triron Jul 2019 #147
Fewer precincts than that: Think Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee. Funtatlaguy Jul 2019 #151
Probably where the majority of damage was done. triron Jul 2019 #153
The Russians had the polling data and they understood the vulnerabilities, thus they struck where triron Jul 2019 #154
Sigh... Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #11
YAWN... Baltimike Jul 2019 #21
This is a bigger Russian goal to make Americans question the results and lose faith. UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #23
Don't trust the electoral systems or free press! Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #24
connect the dots and fight back against PROPAGANDA Baltimike Jul 2019 #33
you mean like when you misrepresent the article you linked to? stopdiggin Jul 2019 #42
I agree bdamomma Jul 2019 #141
If you are paying attention, it's already dubious. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #73
The article says they didn't find any evidence of switched votes. n/t femmedem Jul 2019 #12
I'm seeing a pattern... Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #16
drip, drip, drip. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #17
. Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #25
! Baltimike Jul 2019 #56
The president knew it was rigged: dalton99a Jul 2019 #13
Voting logs..software..pgms and ballots are proprietarymaterials of Rene Jul 2019 #15
wow. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #22
Please correct your OP to anything but incorrect information.. asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #26
Exactly! Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #30
Your artice disputes your claim AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #31
Here Mike - The Senate Report..I strongly wish you would read it.. asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #32
Thank you for your voice of sanity! Dennis Donovan Jul 2019 #34
Nice try there...no dice... Baltimike Jul 2019 #39
show me where it says stopdiggin Jul 2019 #43
Sad... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2019 #47
Preaching to the choir. I knew this from day 1. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #35
it's unreal how the gaslighting happens here. (sometimes) nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #57
I agree. People want it both ways too. Trolls gotta troll. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #71
Illegitimate through and through sandensea Jul 2019 #36
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Jul 2019 #37
From a quick scan, Republicans are passing the buck to the states. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #38
The Russians messed with everything and they had help. A open door rockfordfile Jul 2019 #40
I'm retire from the computer industry. I have been saying since 2000 Bush v Gore that... usaf-vet Jul 2019 #41
Of course they are. Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #44
Here is the start of voter suppression. Pass this on. usaf-vet Jul 2019 #46
Thank you for this eye-opening and educational post. triron Jul 2019 #51
So, where were the vote changers in 2008 and 2012, and 2018? Hoyt Jul 2019 #55
We are not talking about those elections. No one has investigated them except in North Carolina in triron Jul 2019 #61
They don't have to "change" votes to alter elections numerically. Basically if its close in a state uponit7771 Jul 2019 #69
Well in Wisconsin they were "stealing" state elections. Gerrymandering. Stacking State Supreme Court usaf-vet Jul 2019 #83
Never denied gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. And no question Hoyt Jul 2019 #84
Exactly a LONG RANGE PLAN! Make small changes and reap the benefits in future elections. usaf-vet Jul 2019 #85
worthy of its own thread Skittles Jul 2019 #74
Agree my brother thought this at the time too. Meowmee Jul 2019 #75
Nah, they just broke into systems, looked at data and just left it. That's what we're being ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #45
Except that not even that is well established FBaggins Jul 2019 #80
This, I'd like to know specifics on what was attempted and what was successful Amishman Jul 2019 #87
There was penetration into multiple levels of registration systems in 16 and 18. The stretch in ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #91
Florida 2018, they did break into systems uponit7771 Jul 2019 #88
Reportedly in two counties FBaggins Jul 2019 #89
The stretch is to believe NOTHING was altered not vice versa and "changing" something isn't the uponit7771 Jul 2019 #90
That's all they had to do to get people to mistrust and boy is it working. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #135
I'm not naming names, but Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #48
Interesting if true. There are a lot of left wing Hillary haters out there though. triron Jul 2019 #53
"IF" true?? Check out twitter -- They're impossible to miss Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #92
Somebody is avoiding main conclusion -- No evidence of 2016 vote changes or manipulation. Hoyt Jul 2019 #58
No votes changed doesn't mean Russian didn't numerically alter the 2016 election. We've been over uponit7771 Jul 2019 #68
It's appropriate given the context of the thread FBaggins Jul 2019 #78
Exactly. Hoyt Jul 2019 #81
somebody is ignoring the FACT that they never looked at the voting machines Baltimike Jul 2019 #113
No evidence covers that, but why get in the way of another conspiracy Hoyt Jul 2019 #117
PLENTY of evidence "covers that", it has been avoided Baltimike Jul 2019 #119
We need paper ballots and we need full counts, everywhere, everytime. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #79
That's likely not going to happen, unfortunately. GoCubsGo Jul 2019 #82
Wrong. The report said the exact OPPOSITE... brooklynite Jul 2019 #86
WRONG. The report did not examine the voting equipment Baltimike Jul 2019 #93
Senator Wyden expressed his doubts about the reports supposed conclusion in his minority view. triron Jul 2019 #97
all day long...this. You are spot on. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #102
Do you have a page citation for that? I see where Wyden, rightly discusses his concerns about Hoyt Jul 2019 #120
Maybe it's all in your (or my) interpretation of what he said. triron Jul 2019 #121
Yes, and he did not say what the poster above said. Wyden did say that it should not be left to Hoyt Jul 2019 #123
Not in so many words maybe but it was implied in much of his response. triron Jul 2019 #125
There's this: "[In 2016, Russians] might have been cataloging options 'for use at a later date'..." VOX Jul 2019 #98
I think the statement below is wrong. They did execute those options. But no one will say so. triron Jul 2019 #100
Agreed. That, and a probable dry-run for 2020. VOX Jul 2019 #139
I suspect it was even easier jmowreader Jul 2019 #99
They were clever enough to cover their tracks. triron Jul 2019 #101
kick for visibility triron Jul 2019 #105
knr triron Jul 2019 #109
The Russians hacked into elections computers. This is proven. They'll do it again. yardwork Jul 2019 #110
it's crazy how peopletry to gaslight you into thinking it didn't happen Baltimike Jul 2019 #111
There is absolute proof. It happened in my town in NC yardwork Jul 2019 #112
It happened in your twon? Tell me more...nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #114
I believe N. C. is one of the states where vote counts were altered but maybe not enough triron Jul 2019 #115
Nobody disputes that Russia hacked Voting Database computers... brooklynite Jul 2019 #122
+1. It's not exactly rocket science: dalton99a Jul 2019 #116
Thank you. triron Jul 2019 #118
thank you indeed. I hadn't seen this nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #126
Please post some of the article. I cannot open it. triron Jul 2019 #127
knr triron Jul 2019 #128
Please keep this one on the burner. triron Jul 2019 #124
kick again triron Jul 2019 #129
kick again triron Jul 2019 #130
kick again triron Jul 2019 #131
you are my hero! Because this really is soooo important. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #132
Thanks but I'm doing it for exactly that reason. triron Jul 2019 #133
Delete this fear mongering OP comrade. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #136
No. Baltimike Jul 2019 #137
This is a joke right? triron Jul 2019 #140
It's crazy, right? nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #165
kick for visibility triron Jul 2019 #148
Again. triron Jul 2019 #149
Kick ck4829 Jul 2019 #150
Can you show where that article says they switched votes, or didn't count certain votes? It doesn't. Hoyt Jul 2019 #152
Of course not. We are not allowed to know. eos. triron Jul 2019 #155
Seen enough conspiracies in my life that weren't supported. This is another one. Admittedly, it Hoyt Jul 2019 #156
If it's classified Democratic (or otherwise) senators won't say it openly. Geesh. triron Jul 2019 #157
Starting to believe too many Americans don't even care. Trying to bury their heads in the sand. triron Aug 2019 #158
Giving in to that achieves Russia's goal Baltimike Aug 2019 #159
Gettin it back. triron Aug 2019 #160
thank you nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #161
Hey y'all remember this? triron Aug 2019 #162
the chaos and slow walking of the largest attack on America in our history is stunning. nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #163
knr triron Aug 2019 #164
Jimmy Carter said as much. triron Aug 2019 #166
the drip, drip, drip continues bc the Russian efforts have not stopped. nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #167
But Barr & friends sure have put a damper on the indictments. triron Aug 2019 #168
they're slow walking Justice Baltimike Aug 2019 #169
They're tripping and putting obstacles in the way. triron Aug 2019 #170
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