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26. Their politics are a form of agression imposing dominance on others

Reply to LuckyCharms (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 02:48 PM

Jul 2019

Reasoned discussion is a sign of weakness - you assert the "truth" forcefully

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We can't understand Trumpenstein's base without understanding toxic masculinity. [View all] ariadne0614 Jul 2019 OP

In other words, they're sheep. Hopefully they're like lemmings too Brawndo Jul 2019 #1

This book is the perfect gift for Trumpsters. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #4

It would be grand, but they'd have to accept that something was wrong first Brawndo Jul 2019 #8

They share that trait with the Con - never admit that you're wrong. CrispyQ Jul 2019 #10

It's the sure sign of a deluded mental midget, never at fault for anything. Brawndo Jul 2019 #13

True. Duppers Jul 2019 #33

They're DITTO HEADS. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #2

There's a lot of truth in this. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3

While simultaneously seething over their rejection by most women. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #5

Yeah, they absolutely despise women, and then wonder why women avoid them. Their hate Nay Jul 2019 #12

"There are a lot of men out there who don't like women. raccoon Jul 2019 #31

Yep, agree 1,000%, have thought the same. "perverse performance art, a testosterone-fueled circus" RKP5637 Jul 2019 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #19

But shanti Jul 2019 #15

Women often buy into the whole toxic masculinity thing. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #16

I think you're on to something here. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #28

I've noticed that debating treestar Jul 2019 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #20

That's peer pressure, producing the same toxic masculinity that turns people into gun humpers. ooky Jul 2019 #9

Sadly, a lot of (mostly white) women have bought into it, too. CrispyQ Jul 2019 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #21

Same here. I just don't get it. I would think they would be avoiding this guy like the plague! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #23

I am not stunned. MicaelS Jul 2019 #64

But why do they think their female bosses were worse than male bosses? yardwork Jul 2019 #91

If men would reject it, I think those women would gladly follow them out of the pit. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #66

Ever since the Gillette campaign customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #14

Here's the difference. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #29

It is offensive to me and divisive. There is no parallel term for violent, cruel, inhumane, callous emmaverybo Jul 2019 #30

You're kidding, right? ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #36

Not among liberals, not one that is considered politically correct. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #37

I have to wash socks. BBL n/t rzemanfl Jul 2019 #59

Nobody customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #45

Like overt racism, it went underground. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #67

So customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #69

Thank you customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #43

Yes, and let's bury the lively discussions about our nation's racist history too. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #72

No one's trying to bury anything customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #73

"The Man They Wanted Me to Be: Toxic Masculinity and a Crisis of Our Own Making" ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #74

I don't feel customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #76

I didn't read it in a college class. It was just published. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #83

Thanks customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #84

Because two of those things are people and one of them is a social construct. meadowlander Jul 2019 #94

I've always believed this to be true. LuckyCharms Jul 2019 #17

And we seemingly have a lot of backward fucks in the USA. I figured Trump would be out on his ear RKP5637 Jul 2019 #24

Their politics are a form of agression imposing dominance on others DBoon Jul 2019 #26

I'm not sure I agree Buckeyeblue Jul 2019 #18

Yep, exactly what I think too. I live in a neighborhood that is fairly nice, houses and all, but I RKP5637 Jul 2019 #25

I live in a neighborhood full of educated and affluent, racist, bigoted trash. SharonAnn Jul 2019 #53

Yep, wealth and education often make no difference. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2019 #56

"They support Trump because he hates women's rights and gays, the two big evils." ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #32

But the point of the post is these people don't agree with Trump Buckeyeblue Jul 2019 #47

What's the underlying cause of their hate? ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #51

2 things Buckeyeblue Jul 2019 #58

tRump is a genius at being a con artist. He says whatever to get the vote. Any believers thinking RKP5637 Jul 2019 #57

I think he believes most of it Buckeyeblue Jul 2019 #60

Yep, I agree ... I think there is a core of pure hatred and evilness about him toward immigration. RKP5637 Jul 2019 #62

And 52% of white women suffer from the same toxic masculinity maxrandb Jul 2019 #22

Yes, a disgusting number of white women still support the patriarchy. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #34

"Toxic masculinity" is a sexist phrase and should not be used. gulliver Jul 2019 #35

What would you call it, then? It's a thing, to be sure. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #38

There's nothing wrong with masculinity any more than there is femininity. gulliver Jul 2019 #39

"Excessive" masculinity would be undefinable. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #41

+1 ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #46

Very well said, although monster trucks may well be toxic in their own right. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2019 #61

Toxic masculinity is also undefinable. Maybe "false" masculinity is closer. gulliver Jul 2019 #78

Okay, here's the deal. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #40

Wow, I didn't realize customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #44

Oh, never mind. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #49

Well, you come here out of the blue customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #52

Out of the blue? How so? ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #77

Your post total customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #79

Someone who posted to this thread joined DU in 2005 and has rzemanfl Jul 2019 #81

Yes, that is suspicious customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #82

I think things are so dire "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies. rzemanfl Jul 2019 #89

I appreciate your point, although I would be sad if. . ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #92

I know I don't customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #93

I appreciate being differentiated from suspicious characters. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #87

I see. Didn't mean to break any unspoken rules. ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #85

Me, too customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #88

blah blah blah #notallmen obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #70

Let's hope customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #71

Oh, bull. BlueStater Jul 2019 #48

Well, I'm a man. Are you saying you speak for me? gulliver Jul 2019 #75

How did you interpret that from my post? BlueStater Jul 2019 #80

There is literally NO WAY for it to be a sexist phrase obamanut2012 Jul 2019 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2019 #42

"What will you hand men that works as well?" ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #86

I call bullshit. These are not "masculine men" and I resent Drahthaardogs Jul 2019 #50

So they are cowards? guillaumeb Jul 2019 #54

So - they are following JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #55

I don't think it's the masculinity that is the problem. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2019 #63

most of them are Incels and other gross losers like Trump himself JI7 Jul 2019 #65

Poor closeted straight male human beings. Mc Mike Jul 2019 #90