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stopbush

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41. Until 200 years ago, the RCC promoted the dogma of ensoulment,
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jun 2019

Ie: the idea that the soul didn’t enter the body until 90 days into the pregnancy. Until that point, the fetus was considered a vegetable. While abortion was not encouraged, it was understood and accepted if performed within that 90-day window.

Then, the RCC saw the political advantage of dropping that dogma, and the rest is the anti-choice history that ensued.

Your logic is unassailable! Fla Dem Jun 2019 #1
That is a superb rejoinder. 3catwoman3 Jun 2019 #5
Please feel free! Fla Dem Jun 2019 #28
Ask them this. I did once. slater71 Jun 2019 #2
I said something similar to that to a lady at work one day. blueinredohio Jun 2019 #4
And THAT is the perfect question. 3catwoman3 Jun 2019 #7
The perfect STFU to the "Pro-Life" crowd. amb123 Jun 2019 #27
How about asking them if they are willing to pay increased taxes to build more schools. greymattermom Jun 2019 #63
In the west end I saw some last summer protesting underpants Jun 2019 #3
Not really funny Cartoonist Jun 2019 #6
Which brings to mind another point I've made to them in the past Goodheart Jun 2019 #8
DON'T give them any ideas !!! pangaia Jun 2019 #10
They are, in fact, armed and dangerous. They doxx people.They stalk the children of clinic employees Hekate Jun 2019 #61
Unbaptized babies go straight to purgatory ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #9
What a racket! Goodheart Jun 2019 #11
Well, they stopped doing that a little while ago ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #14
Good lord. :) Goodheart Jun 2019 #15
Looks like an effective tool for inducing saline abortions... TygrBright Jun 2019 #26
I was hoping this was satire. Apparently not. Jesus H. 3catwoman3 Jun 2019 #49
Nope, not satire unfortunately ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #52
I look on us with incredulity... 3catwoman3 Jun 2019 #57
Political and medical reasons converge in the southern states ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #58
No...they went to "limbo" brooklynite Jun 2019 #17
Purgatory is a clean up? Goodheart Jun 2019 #20
Purgatory was presumed to be a place for people old enough to be considered "mature"... brooklynite Jun 2019 #23
Sure, but there's nothing "clean" about that, either. :) Goodheart Jun 2019 #24
when fundies say to me, "I'll pray for you", I respond, "I'll think for you"... Javaman Jun 2019 #12
I gotta remember that one. In fact Blue_playwright Jun 2019 #13
I'll think for you...because you obviously don't. Merlot Jun 2019 #16
Ha rusty quoin Jun 2019 #21
I have always wondered what do they pray for me to have? Delmette2.0 Jun 2019 #39
Ooooh - that is very good. 3catwoman3 Jun 2019 #50
You'd do just as well to whip out your magic wand... hunter Jun 2019 #18
logic won't work on those people AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #19
facepalm 47of74 Jun 2019 #22
Maybe you can bring your own brochures for adopting foster kids. jmbar2 Jun 2019 #25
Certainly a big part of it is an issue of who would support these children if they were born ...... Ohiogal Jun 2019 #29
Okay, figure this out jmowreader Jun 2019 #30
Nothing these people say makes rational sense. mwb970 Jun 2019 #31
Point out to them that god is history's most-notorious abortionist. stopbush Jun 2019 #32
That would have taken too long. :) Goodheart Jun 2019 #35
I've asked Catholics to consider the following TlalocW Jun 2019 #38
Until 200 years ago, the RCC promoted the dogma of ensoulment, stopbush Jun 2019 #41
From Billy Connolly uriel1972 Jun 2019 #47
ive been asking that question for years . AllaN01Bear Jun 2019 #33
Nothing about Christianity makes sense to me vlyons Jun 2019 #34
I like their explanation of who Jesus was... Goodheart Jun 2019 #36
And he had the distinct advantage of being the boss's son. VOX Jun 2019 #51
And he got to be God forever after his "ultimate sacrifice". Goodheart Jun 2019 #54
Not too crazy about it myself! VOX Jun 2019 #56
Ask, "But what if the fetus you save is gay?" OMGWTF Jun 2019 #37
I thought this up, and I'm sure many others have too TlalocW Jun 2019 #40
Those whackos would probably save the embryos just to make a point. Goodheart Jun 2019 #43
I see the logic, but these are fundies.... lastlib Jun 2019 #60
Bravo! n/t Soph0571 Jun 2019 #42
Sometime try asking them why they think god needs their help lunatica Jun 2019 #44
I'll give you some other things to say! EndGOPPropaganda Jun 2019 #45
Catholic School tiptonic Jun 2019 #46
THAT is one of the most beautiful traps I have ever read. KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #48
My father sellitman Jun 2019 #53
Sounds like I would have! Goodheart Jun 2019 #55
Well played, well played!!!!! Blue_true Jun 2019 #59
I have one simple line I use with all obnoxious in your face fundies. gordianot Jun 2019 #62
It's fun to mess with the crazy Jesus people. Vinca Jun 2019 #64
My response is LittleGirl Jun 2019 #65
Doing God's work would be aborting as many as possible. Ligyron Jun 2019 #66
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