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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #31)

Fri May 24, 2019, 01:01 PM

44. The Republicans are now employing a range of obviously hostile,

anti-democracy strategies to grab and hold power they can't get through elections, including blatant election theft. If not stopped, I have no doubt they will continue until they've stripped the citizenry of power, probably ruling behind a false-front/faux democracy.

Right now they hold the WH and senate, DoJ, SCOTUS is no longer reliable, and probably close to a couple dozen state governments with their militias. Have to assume the NSA, possibly the FBI.

Comey and McCabe provably misused the power of the FBI in a way that threw the election to the Republicans, and I believe they had to be participating in a conspiracy. We can assume others are still in the FBI, like that nasty nest of RW, Giuliani-associated agents in the Manhattan branch. Director Wray?

"The People": In the past a significant minority polled indicated support for a military coup (!), and larger numbers indicated interest in switching to an authoritarian form of government. It's not just the right, either; support was found on the left also. I'm assuming many among the anti-Democratic left, including those who once supported Sanders' attempt to have the primary election results set aside to make him our nominee, could be among those. Add in some strategic election theft and they could have an "electoral" majority.

Much of the media are already infiltrated; 6 companies control something like 90% of the news. I'm assuming some within the same media that weighted and twisted their coverage to defeat Democrats in 2016 and are doing it again now would be or get behind a RW takeover. They're already traitors.

Russia and China are working to undermine our democracy and socioeconomic health.

But this thread is not asking about continuing their attempted slow takeover but, given the threats to their power now, accelerating to an immediate takeover.

We have to assume almost all elected Republicans and voters would actively support it, also many conservative indies once it was mostly a fait accompli and some on the farther left especially. The antagonism to Democrats there is very real.

But besides whether the military would betray or stand loyal, a huge, huge obstacle would be state power. There is no one central government to seize. Most red states -- but perhaps not some of the western ones -- would support it. The blue states would fight the new federal government.

Seizing communications and power grids, not centralized but interdependent, would be key. Both sides would be doing it. Democrats are generally concentrated in cities, conservative hold the big areas. People can bloviate all they want, but just turning off the power would bring whole cities and counties of noisy people to their knees very quickly, turning off the water even more quickly. Can't fight if by day 2 you're already facing the implacable reality that your children will die if the water isn't turned back on.

I wish we knew more about how this could be done too.

But so far it's being stopped the way the constitution was written to, and the real, visible threat, which is already storming our barricades, is "constitutional regression," which is what it sounds like.

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