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honest.abe

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55. Well in defense of this technology for sure it can see things on the road..

Thu May 23, 2019, 01:27 PM

May 2019

and will attempt to avoid them. In fact these systems probably see better that human eyes in most cases since they use something like radar. However it is the odd weird unexpected scenarios that worry me. Those happen frequently on busy roads and may confuse a self-driving vehicle. Also, I worry simply about a basic malfunction like the United 737 Max. The automation simply failed in those crashes. No doubt that will happen with these vehicles from time to time and when it happens hopefully there wont be people in the way.

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Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service [View all] Recursion May 2019 OP

Just hire some drivers FFS Blues Heron May 2019 #1

Could we? The unemployment rate is literally as low as it's ever been Recursion May 2019 #3

Isn't it mostly low paying service jobs though? Turin_C3PO May 2019 #4

No. The past 4 years have seen the largest wage increases on record also, for the bottom 40% Recursion May 2019 #6

That's good news then. Turin_C3PO May 2019 #8

this will eliminate jobs though - that's the purpose Blues Heron May 2019 #11

Isn't this the result of some cities and states raising their minimum wage to $15.00 per hour? SamKnause May 2019 #26

Umm... when minimum wages get increased, employers have to give raises Recursion May 2019 #30

I remember when the minimum wage was $3.35 Rambling Man May 2019 #34

They don't HAVE to give raises FBaggins May 2019 #105

In my area, it seems to be employers will not hire full time employees oregonjen May 2019 #82

I'm always dubious about those claims zipplewrath May 2019 #14

You don't think there will be another recession? Doodley May 2019 #44

Not that easy Kilgore May 2019 #10

well lets get rid of the drivers then, they can do something else Blues Heron May 2019 #13

I think that's the plan. Kilgore May 2019 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #64

It was supposed to be sarcasm, I want to keep humans behind the wheel! Blues Heron May 2019 #68

Alright....fair enough. A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #71

I stand with you. There needs to be more empathy for truck drivers. Doodley May 2019 #69

I appreciate that. A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #72

Should we bring back switchboards? Typing pools? Human wheat threshers? Recursion May 2019 #109

Funny how that driverless truck has two attendants riding along. brush May 2019 #85

One is the driver and the other is an engineer A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #94

So what are you saying? You will be loosing your driving job? brush May 2019 #100

I doubt seriously it will come to that before I kick the bucket, but I suppose it's possible. A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #102

Doesn't pay enough madville May 2019 #106

One of the side stories of the tv series The Expanse is Ilsa May 2019 #2

I'm waiting for the Los Angeles freeway car and truck chases on live TV Submariner May 2019 #5

At least when they're shot up by Ice-T, nobody will be hurt. n/t Ron Obvious May 2019 #7

Just like riderless horse in Preakness. No driver needed. Sneederbunk May 2019 #9

So, they're allowing driverless trucks to use the same roads we do? Baitball Blogger May 2019 #12

Human drivers kill 30K per year Recursion May 2019 #16

Lame. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #17

No, lawsuits don't bury companies when human drivers kill Recursion May 2019 #32

Disagree Baitball Blogger May 2019 #33

No, a much less steep toll Recursion May 2019 #108

It's not a perfect science as you know Baitball Blogger May 2019 #111

It's like you are completely unaware that human drivers kill tens of thousands of people every year Recursion May 2019 #112

You are making an assumption based on a statistically insignificant number of driverless cars Baitball Blogger May 2019 #113

I thought they were on their dedicated roads. lindysalsagal May 2019 #19

You would think so. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #21

They are. A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #61

Lol.....short sighted...... USALiberal May 2019 #36

Planes had a number of places to do their test runs and crash without danger to life on the ground. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #39

Google has tested millions of miles already. It will happen. Nt USALiberal May 2019 #41

Where do these trucks get gas? nt Mrs. Ted Nancy May 2019 #15

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Oh my!! Mrs. Ted Nancy May 2019 #24

It's from Stephen King's Maximum Drive, Baitball Blogger May 2019 #25

It is Emilio Estevez, Martin Sheen's son. SamKnause May 2019 #28

Socialize Expenses--Privatize Profits. Get the USPS to beta the technology: Incur lawsuits, Bad PR TheBlackAdder May 2019 #20

I believe that doesn't apply here grantcart May 2019 #22

That's good. But even if a sub-contractor, news will say it was a USPS transportation truck. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #23

The media doesn't determine liability fescuerescue May 2019 #87

I know, but the media says, a robotic truck transporting USPS mail killed XX amount of people. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #107

This is a terrible idea. People will die. Jobs will be lost. Lives ruined. Doodley May 2019 #27

Human drivers kill more people than automated cars will. Jobs will be lost Recursion May 2019 #31

telephone switchboards and typing pools Rambling Man May 2019 #35

Planes used to crash a lot. Think they should of stopped flying? Nt USALiberal May 2019 #38

Barrels used to make mayonnaise a lot. Think they should HAVE stopped spelunking? Rambling Man May 2019 #40

The point is that the technology is not quite there yet and it is obvious. Doodley May 2019 #45

It will get there, no doubt. Nt USALiberal May 2019 #46

You will eat your words. Sorry, but I am not supporting Doodley May 2019 #43

Wow, you don't get it...... USALiberal May 2019 #48

Frankly, that obviously isn't good enough. We need a lot more data. Doodley May 2019 #52

Early passanger flights were risky also! Cars also. Get it yet? Nt USALiberal May 2019 #58

You seem to be agreeing this is risky? Doodley May 2019 #59

I think we are taking unnecessary risks... tonedevil May 2019 #65

The data so far is pretty good fescuerescue May 2019 #88

30,000 people die yearly by bad drivers. You cannot stop technology! Nt USALiberal May 2019 #37

Two different issues. The issue is are self-driving trucks safe? Doodley May 2019 #47

Neither are human operated vehicles. Kaleva May 2019 #53

Oh? So we don't need to worry about safety? It sounds Doodley May 2019 #56

Where did I say such a thing? Kaleva May 2019 #60

It was a question to seek clarification of what you meant. Hence, the use of a question mark. Doodley May 2019 #63

I thought my post was clear. Kaleva May 2019 #70

I would rather we focus on improving human operated drivers. honest.abe May 2019 #75

Yes, systems could detect if one car was too close to another or if it was speeding, instantly Doodley May 2019 #80

Doesn't sound like the kind of society I would want fescuerescue May 2019 #89

Ironic, as automated vehicles would be programmed to follow traffic rules. Seems strange that Doodley May 2019 #95

I don't care if computer are programed to follow rules fescuerescue May 2019 #101

Automation is coming and we need to be ready Amishman May 2019 #42

You are exactly right. What kind of society do we want? Doodley May 2019 #49

All it takes will be one major malfunction and this technology will be set back years maybe decades. honest.abe May 2019 #50

I foresee a lot of scenarios but one that feels fairly likely at some point ... mr_lebowski May 2019 #51

You are right. What if they hit ice? What if there's fog and an animal is on the road? Doodley May 2019 #54

Well in defense of this technology for sure it can see things on the road.. honest.abe May 2019 #55

Can you explain the mechanism by which a sensor on one of these trucks can detect this? A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #62

I was talking about seeing objects.. yes ice and snow is another matter. honest.abe May 2019 #67

IR can tell the difference fescuerescue May 2019 #91

What about water on top of ice? A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #96

That might fool a computer fescuerescue May 2019 #103

And we know how that panned out. Boeing knew there were problems. It tried to put profits first Doodley May 2019 #66

Lol, air travel now is the safest time in USA history! Nt USALiberal May 2019 #76

Until one particular type of new technology was introduced. Doodley May 2019 #81

And -- still -- air travel is safer than even 20 years ago (nt) Recursion May 2019 #110

Not for the planes that use that system. No it isn't. Repeat. That is why planes were grounded. Doodley May 2019 #114

Yeah it is, actually. Pilots need to know about the MCAS disabling switch. That's it. Recursion May 2019 #115

and IR camera can see an animal through fog fescuerescue May 2019 #90

Indeed. honest.abe May 2019 #57

Yes, because early passanger planes never crashed! Nt USALiberal May 2019 #74

There was and still is no reasonable alternative to planes if we want to travel long distance.. honest.abe May 2019 #78

I don't know how anyone could disagree with that. Doodley May 2019 #84

So 2 people doing nothing, rather than 1 driver. Owl May 2019 #73

Just for the test customerserviceguy May 2019 #77

"The latter community is where truck drivers come from, predominately." A HERETIC I AM May 2019 #98

Just anecdotal customerserviceguy May 2019 #116

On long distances? yes fescuerescue May 2019 #92

Oh, for joy. TruckFump May 2019 #79

Europe has been running driverless trucks for some time... cynatnite May 2019 #83

It's all fun and games until full automation takes our jobs away... Blue_Tires May 2019 #86

First they came for our neighbors and we did nothing. Then they came for our family and we did Doodley May 2019 #97

Learn to repair them madville May 2019 #93

They can easily be fixed while emergency services clear up the wreckage and take the bodies away. Doodley May 2019 #99

But you are ok with 30,000 dead because of human drivers. nt USALiberal May 2019 #104

! appalachiablue May 2019 #117