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Cold War Spook

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22. My approach is different but it still uses pre-meditated murder.

Sun May 12, 2019, 12:16 PM

May 2019

So a fetus is a human being and killing it is pre-meditated murder. The idea is to get them to agree that a fetus is a human being so you can not abort it under any circumstances. If a woman is pregnant and then develops cancer she cannot have chemo because it will kill the baby and she is going to die before the baby is old enough to be viable so they both die, is that correct? They will say that she can have the chemo since if she doesn't both will die. But that is still murder. You are not allowed to kill an innocent person.

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The best pro choice debate strategy you will win every time. [View all] Funtatlaguy May 2019 OP

while i certainly agree with your approach rampartc May 2019 #1

There's a part of the pro-life movement who want exactly this -- charges for both the person who WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #2

Tell them this will fill our prisons and raise their taxes. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #3

They don't care. Anything to stop abortion in all circumstances and punish those involved. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #4

Well, if a doctor has determined that the life of the mother is threatened by a pregnancy, sarabelle May 2019 #5

That's a higher level of debate than most of their minds can handle. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #9

So for men, having unprotected sex greymattermom May 2019 #6

That's certainly an argument a good lawyer could make. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #10

If men have any responsibility for pregnancy, greymattermom May 2019 #7

+1 2naSalit May 2019 #12

the whole problem is: men are not held accountable for sex. This patriarchy we are all CharleyDog May 2019 #32

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2019 #41

I always felt the strongest argument is that the forced birthers are violating our freedom of religi RAB910 May 2019 #8

Another viable argument. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #11

Regarding abortion, there is no "winning" an argument with those who disagree with you elocs May 2019 #13

I actually have changed a few minds. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #14

The problem is that the new Christians would be on board for this Buckeyeblue May 2019 #15

Only until their preachers and deacons are jailed. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #17

I usually find it impossible to change minds on this issue, but........ DFW May 2019 #16

Love it. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #19

YES. More questions: calimary May 2019 #33

The trouble with that is DFW May 2019 #39

intelligent Rambling Man May 2019 #35

The American Taliban would agree with you FakeNoose May 2019 #18

That argument concedes that abortion is murder Martin Eden May 2019 #20

My argument said.....hmmmm Funtatlaguy May 2019 #21

I didn't think you believe abortion is murder Martin Eden May 2019 #23

I concede to them that they believe that and I am Funtatlaguy May 2019 #24

More people should point out that abortion is not murder, it is abortion treestar May 2019 #25

"They call it murder to make an appeal to emotion." Martin Eden May 2019 #34

My approach is different but it still uses pre-meditated murder. Cold War Spook May 2019 #22

too many would have ZERO issue with your argument.... beachbum bob May 2019 #26

Just wait until it's someone they know that's involved Funtatlaguy May 2019 #28

thats always the case with almost all people, but still doesn't stop them from supporting insane beachbum bob May 2019 #29

I would never concede to them that abortion is murder. CrispyQ May 2019 #27

Some of them wouild be ok with that nini May 2019 #30

They are not "Pro-Life" Thunderbeast May 2019 #31

They just hate women Rambling Man May 2019 #36

Looking at them with pity in my eyes and saying, "God, you're stupid," LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2019 #37

Given that they're probably already ok with murdering any Planned Parenthood M.D., ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2019 #38

I've thought of this argument a while ago, and I never used it but then... TlalocW May 2019 #40