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ahoysrcsm

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54. If you like...

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:28 AM

May 2019

I'm sure your local police force has a ride along program. Taking a ride along may be the best thing for someone who thinks the officers life was not in danger.

Also go to a dinner, or some other eating establishment when there are a few police cars there. Police are very friendly group when not "on the clock" and would probably not have a problem chatting about local issues.

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Police shoot 17 year old girl armed with knife [View all] ansible May 2019 OP

Making my argument for non-lethal force options as mandatory ASAP pretty easy! Brainfodder May 2019 #1

Apparently non lethal force was considered. ... spin May 2019 #7

Not good enough. Brainfodder May 2019 #17

Are you saying the 1st responder ought to always have in hand a shotgun? Kaleva May 2019 #19

I never mentioned a shotgun. Brainfodder May 2019 #34

Police in Michigan have net guns that entrap suspects. zackymilly May 2019 #37

That sounds good! Brainfodder May 2019 #40

It appears that the Saginaw County Sheriff's Department has two net guns Kaleva May 2019 #51

Tazers are not always reliable. ... spin May 2019 #46

Michigan law Kaleva May 2019 #24

Knife is a lethal weapon. LisaL May 2019 #18

The option being available, yes. Brainfodder May 2019 #47

"Don't reach for it, put it down, sit here on the curb." Way to start it off clear, genius. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #2

Why is a simple, logical request a shitshow? bitterross May 2019 #52

Because it was three simple, logical requests in a row, leading to confusion, and then instead of WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #62

+1000 nt Nuggets May 2019 #68

Did he ever ask why she wanted him to shoot her? uppityperson May 2019 #3

If you're approaching me with a knife Jake Stern May 2019 #9

Bullshit SCantiGOP May 2019 #28

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #32

Try an experiment. MicaelS May 2019 #42

This is a ridiculous argument Nuggets May 2019 #71

If you like... ahoysrcsm May 2019 #54

He had time at the beginning to get her to engage verbally but chose to just make commands uppityperson May 2019 #48

Right and either way Nuggets May 2019 #78

Baloney that's EXACTLY how you start. Nuggets May 2019 #70

Surely they can make sure those in mental institutions treestar May 2019 #100

Mental patients make weapons Nuggets May 2019 #110

Everyday Joes are even less likely to be trained to deal with something like this treestar May 2019 #112

He is a grown man basically shooting a mentally ill kid womanofthehills May 2019 #89

You watch too many movies. NutmegYankee May 2019 #116

Police are NOT mental health professionals Rambling Man May 2019 #67

Some try to de-escalate, others don't. They need more training in how to do so. uppityperson May 2019 #74

a police Rambling Man May 2019 #75

She is obviously a depressed child. Why would shooting her be an option? Glimmer of Hope May 2019 #4

I wonder what is your preferred option? dumbcat May 2019 #14

She charged him, after he backed up several yards. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #25

why couldnt he shoot her in the knee? samnsara May 2019 #27

She got shot three times, once in the leg (thigh area) LisaL May 2019 #30

Hello, he could have shot up into the air or the ground first to scare her womanofthehills May 2019 #92

no it wouldn't, gejohnston May 2019 #95

Uncle Donut..... Fla_Democrat May 2019 #43

Because that's fantasy when adrenaline is flowing Polybius May 2019 #61

Because life isn't an action movie? Rambling Man May 2019 #66

I'd call it a clear example of attempted suicide by cop. Dale Neiburg May 2019 #5

Don't see anything wrong with this shooting. Jake Stern May 2019 #6

I agree. pintobean May 2019 #8

Despite the common belief on DU that all police shootings are bad Jake Stern May 2019 #13

I back the cop as well. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #26

The cop here did nothing wrong. Drahthaardogs May 2019 #65

the cop did a lot wrong womanofthehills May 2019 #90

Surely you don't mean ... Straw Man May 2019 #96

21 feet (7 yards) is the rule dumbcat May 2019 #10

Looks close to that. Igel May 2019 #20

Yes. And if not stopped, at least one officer down, and who else? Another officer, a civilian? emmaverybo May 2019 #29

I completly back the cop in this one. bitterross May 2019 #53

Innocent, yes. Optimal, no. It will be nice when we can work on "optimal". lostnfound May 2019 #56

I can be very critical of police, but I think this was reasonable. NutmegYankee May 2019 #11

Appears to me that the cop did nothing wrong. Kaleva May 2019 #12

Gee, when a teenager threatened me with a knife, I just laughed at him ProudLib72 May 2019 #15

What happened next? cwydro May 2019 #21

He didn't go through with it ProudLib72 May 2019 #31

Me too. And to a man with a hammer, all the world is a nail. lostnfound May 2019 #55

Yrs ago, my boss had me drive a Vet to the Veterans Hospital - the Vet pulled a knife on me womanofthehills May 2019 #91

I thought of the taser. ProudLib72 May 2019 #94

Wow! You handled that BRILLIANTLY! renate May 2019 #106

It's a sad situation for all involved Downtown Hound May 2019 #16

Sad, but cop had no choice Jersey Devil May 2019 #22

We can do better than the police system we have. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #23

Unless she was close enough to stab them, what are these cowards afraid of? elocs May 2019 #33

The 21 foot rule is almost universal in police training dumbcat May 2019 #35

How long do they have to wait? treestar May 2019 #60

You think this girl could have turned suddenly Nuggets May 2019 #72

She is running towards them. treestar May 2019 #79

He had plenty of time from the get go Nuggets May 2019 #84

You should get hired at the police treestar May 2019 #85

Ah the old Nuggets May 2019 #88

Did she die? She may have survived treestar May 2019 #97

So if she's riddled with bullets and Nuggets May 2019 #98

Well you could at least be accurate treestar May 2019 #99

The cop has really poor verbal skills mokawanis May 2019 #36

He's not there to help. He's there to "contain the threat" -- to dehumanize and objectify WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #39

He didn't do it because they are not trained professionals. Any old fool can become a cop. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #45

Exactly, thank you uppityperson May 2019 #49

None of those things you mentioned are considered to be deadly weapons Kaleva May 2019 #50

I consider a razor to be potentially deadly mokawanis May 2019 #63

I don't think there's a jurisdiction in the country that considers a razor to be a deadly weapon Kaleva May 2019 #82

What was he to say beyond "drop the knife?" treestar May 2019 #101

Lots of things he could have said mokawanis May 2019 #108

A grown man with a baton couldn't hit her arm holding the knife? zackymilly May 2019 #38

Cops in the UK disarm folks with a knife all the time..the fact that she is black HipChick May 2019 #41

I don't think UK tactics would have worked in this situation Kaleva May 2019 #58

Not always....basically the cops here are not trained... HipChick May 2019 #64

Plus Rambling Man May 2019 #77

I think cops need to also be trained in mental health and other possible responses such as UniteFightBack May 2019 #44

Or maybe they can get babysitter training Rambling Man May 2019 #69

She was running towards him treestar May 2019 #86

Shot Joediss May 2019 #57

Is it too much to ask that she put the knife down? treestar May 2019 #59

I can't believe so many people here are defending the cop Mosby May 2019 #73

having a complete understanding that you live in a police state Rambling Man May 2019 #76

we don't live in a police state Mosby May 2019 #109

some of you don't Rambling Man May 2019 #111

So the cop is never to be defended? treestar May 2019 #102

maybe he should have disarmed her Mosby May 2019 #105

Is it standard to train police to disarm someone with a knife? treestar May 2019 #115

they are trained in close contact fighting afaik Mosby May 2019 #117

The officer is on administrative leave treestar May 2019 #118

This is what can happen if you don't stop a teen armed with a butcherknife appleannie1943 May 2019 #80

Having actually watched the video sarisataka May 2019 #81

taser? Demonaut May 2019 #83

Problematic for a single officer sarisataka May 2019 #87

Necessary shooting, as far as I'm concerned. Tarc May 2019 #93

This sure has been a contentious thread matt819 May 2019 #104

And you can bet there would be people treestar May 2019 #113

Why is this girl still alive?? Blue_Tires May 2019 #103

Yes, I recall that argument. treestar May 2019 #114

I've added my voice to a number of threads where police have been clearly out of line True Dough May 2019 #107