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doompatrol39

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56. So....he won't contest if we nominate a centrist?

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:20 PM

May 2019

But will if we nominate a liberal?

Jesus Christ.

And is there a single bit of evidence that it was moderates who "flocked to the party in 2018"? Or are we just supposed to take that on faith?

And the thing I don't get about all of this "WE MUST NOMINATE A MODERATE/CENTRIST!!!!" is that it is built on a foundational logic that Hillary lost in 2016 because she was......too liberal?

I mean I know our party's logic is that if we lose it's always because of progressives/liberals/the left, and that moderate centrism can never actual fail it can only be failed by the dirty hippies.....but hearing her say it out loud is even more disheartening than normal.

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Pelosi Warns Democrats: Stay in the Center or Trump May Contest Election Results [View all] Trumpocalypse May 2019 OP

Pragmatism is needed, granted... Dennis Donovan May 2019 #1

It's anything that gets moderates feeling we are pushing too hard. zaj May 2019 #6

Trump is going to contest the results no matter how he loses. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #51

THIS CanonRay May 2019 #54

Contesting election results is going to become the new normal Amishman May 2019 #57

Yup. A win will produce accusations of fraud... JHB May 2019 #79

Try Eisenhower Rambling Man May 2019 #93

Yup. He is. And Vlad is going to help him any way he can. gldstwmn May 2019 #115

Isn't pragmatism what got us here? gldstwmn May 2019 #114

yep Apple Fritter May 2019 #128

There's something wrong with legitimizing the threat of Trump contesting the enough May 2019 #2

She's not legitimizing it Trumpocalypse May 2019 #3

+1 uponit7771 May 2019 #4

+1000!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #53

Why does Anyone still think the next election will be free and fair ?! That's not rational uponit7771 May 2019 #5

Check this out: triron May 2019 #10

Damn, facebook is in the middle of it uponit7771 May 2019 #13

This. Waiting until 2020 is foolish IMO. gldstwmn May 2019 #117

Contest away! Bayard May 2019 #7

True Trumpocalypse May 2019 #8

So can his attorneys shanti May 2019 #18

Guliani is one step ahead? Trumpocalypse May 2019 #19

He has a shitload of attorneys on board shanti May 2019 #20

Overthinking. Just do what's right. KPN May 2019 #9

THIS! I support this. n/t Apple Fritter May 2019 #129

So ignore your constitutional duty if you think it will help you win? triron May 2019 #11

What is your goal? Trumpocalypse May 2019 #12

I agree with you on this ProudLib72 May 2019 #41

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #14

Such a strategy is doomed to failure. appal_jack May 2019 #15

She was right in 07 Trumpocalypse May 2019 #16

If you say so, watoos May 2019 #77

And not impeaching Bush Trumpocalypse May 2019 #81

It was a moderate Democrat, Joe Lieberman, watoos May 2019 #101

But that's not what Pelosi said Trumpocalypse May 2019 #102

I am so disappointed and in disbelief over this 2 prong strategy. Will she not even consider Nevermypresident May 2019 #24

No need for a special committee Trumpocalypse May 2019 #46

Yes. Since the Senate won't impeach emmaverybo May 2019 #58

The Senate does not impeach, the House does. Celerity May 2019 #75

Quibbling. I meant same thing. They won't vote to convict meaning emmaverybo May 2019 #109

It is not quibbling, you used completely wrong constitutional terminology. Celerity May 2019 #110

Overreaction much? (slandering) Nevermypresident May 2019 #107

Yes slandering Trumpocalypse May 2019 #108

Take a deep breath... Nevermypresident May 2019 #111

I will Trumpocalypse May 2019 #112

Methinks thou doth protest too much. Nevermypresident May 2019 #119

Why? Trumpocalypse May 2019 #124

Yup wryter2000 May 2019 #127

Because, the truth is, the average American does not care about what Trump did. Oneironaut May 2019 #66

58% of voters say they won't vote for him. Lock him up. May 2019 #82

"We'll never know," are the three most important words in your entire post. marylandblue May 2019 #26

She still swore an oath to the Constitution. appal_jack May 2019 #32

Yes it is higher stakes. But the Constitution does not make a duty of impeachment. marylandblue May 2019 #33

Not academic Trumpocalypse May 2019 #47

You can't prove a negative. watoos May 2019 #104

And by the same logic Trumpocalypse May 2019 #105

I believe you are correct on all points. gldstwmn May 2019 #118

Chump will contest it anyway shanti May 2019 #17

this. durablend May 2019 #22

"Don't Do X, Or Trump Will Do Something Stupid Or Illegal!" hatrack May 2019 #21

Instead of being concerned about the center... LiberalFighter May 2019 #23

Why? Not all of us want all of the progressive agenda. emmaverybo May 2019 #59

Because not all of us want a centrist agenda. Autumn May 2019 #61

Popular with the working class in the rust belt? emmaverybo May 2019 #62

Trump kind of faked a bit of a progressive agenda and he won the rust belt. So there was Autumn May 2019 #64

Well, that support depends on the info they are given emmaverybo May 2019 #71

Because a lot of the so called progressive ideas are supported by the majority. LiberalFighter May 2019 #68

Well, well, well how DU has turned Jake Stern May 2019 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other May 2019 #27

I trust her judgment Trumpocalypse May 2019 #31

I've gone the opposite way of many DUers Jake Stern May 2019 #38

I kept my mouth shut at the time, because I know how this place can get, but Crunchy Frog May 2019 #36

We can do both. It's not wrong to support one of our own. gldstwmn May 2019 #120

That NYT headline is deceptive because the two are not connected. RandySF May 2019 #28

Like 3 million? ProudLib72 May 2019 #42

Right? And "no Russian interference." gldstwmn May 2019 #121

Headline is misleading wellst0nev0ter May 2019 #29

Exactly. NYT looks for trouble. And finds it as people don't read past the headline robbedvoter May 2019 #45

"Own the center left, own the mainstream." (NP as quoted in the NYT story)nt emmaverybo May 2019 #63

Just this right here MFM008 May 2019 #30

The Goldilocks approach. Not too hot, not too cold, just right! jalan48 May 2019 #34

I lulz'd KG May 2019 #35

Fucking NY Times can't even get her quote right in the article title... SidDithers May 2019 #37

Taking impeachment off the table is playing right into Trumps hands standingtall May 2019 #39

She didn't say it's off the table. TwilightZone May 2019 #43

Trump cannot win with just his base showing up, watoos May 2019 #80

It's off the table, it's not off the table. gldstwmn May 2019 #122

The same argument was made in 07 Trumpocalypse May 2019 #48

apples and oranges 08 was nothing like this standingtall May 2019 #55

Same argument was made in 07 Trumpocalypse May 2019 #65

Saying something over again does not make it true standingtall May 2019 #70

And repeating the same weak, false argument Trumpocalypse May 2019 #72

I gave you facts standingtall May 2019 #73

He will do his worst no matter who marlakay May 2019 #40

And she's been one of the most effective Speakers history Trumpocalypse May 2019 #50

Sam Rayburn? Rambling Man May 2019 #87

That wasn't the question. Trumpocalypse May 2019 #89

There aren't very many people who aren't in politics Rambling Man May 2019 #91

It is a matter of credibility Trumpocalypse May 2019 #94

So absolutely no person whatsoever Rambling Man May 2019 #96

Never said that Trumpocalypse May 2019 #98

Someone said this about this exact same thing Rambling Man May 2019 #99

Weak comeback nt Trumpocalypse May 2019 #100

If you say so Rambling Man May 2019 #103

You too Trumpocalypse May 2019 #106

Center-left. It's what she said. NYT headline edited "left" and you all jump on her robbedvoter May 2019 #44

Good catch. nt emmaverybo May 2019 #60

I trust Nancy Pelosi's judgement. NurseJackie May 2019 #49

So do I Trumpocalypse May 2019 #52

So....he won't contest if we nominate a centrist? doompatrol39 May 2019 #56

No, her point is that we need to win by a large enough margin that he can't contest. TwilightZone May 2019 #67

I'm 71 years old watoos May 2019 #78

Either way, it's ridiculous... doompatrol39 May 2019 #95

And consider that there hasn't been an actual "liberal" president Rambling Man May 2019 #97

We live in a banana republic Rambling Man May 2019 #69

+1, there's no reason to think 2020 election will be more free and fair than 2016 uponit7771 May 2019 #74

I sometimes wonder what centrist believe is too far to the left. The Communist Manifesto? YOHABLO May 2019 #76

People fall for the propaganda they see , watoos May 2019 #83

2018 happened because it was a reaction against Trump Rambling Man May 2019 #86

More pointless proclamations that put us in a box BeyondGeography May 2019 #84

And she's been right Trumpocalypse May 2019 #90

trump is desperate now duforsure May 2019 #85

Being Republican-lite, aka "moderate", is not a winning strategy Tarc May 2019 #88

Nor are purity tests Trumpocalypse May 2019 #92

So basically you just told gldstwmn May 2019 #113

Not what she said. Trumpocalypse May 2019 #116

I can read thanks. This is a losing strategy. gldstwmn May 2019 #123

Still not what she said. Trumpocalypse May 2019 #125

Who cares if he contests it? wryter2000 May 2019 #126

THIS.....🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝 pbmus May 2019 #131

Thanks wryter2000 May 2019 #132

Here's a rebuttal to Pelosi: Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #130

But Pelosi didn't say center Trumpocalypse May 2019 #133

Bullshit story with a bullshit title written by bullshit NY Times pecosbob May 2019 #134