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2. Yep. The whole Assange fiasco...

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Sun Aug 26, 2012, 03:27 PM

Aug 2012

exposes who they advocate for. Hint: Its not the Swedish criminal justice system.

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This shameless, duplicitous Third Way propaganda program is absolutely painful to watch continue. [View all] Zorra Aug 2012 OP

Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #1

Yep. The whole Assange fiasco... Teamster Jeff Aug 2012 #2

TL;DR: "Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill or an idiot." Robb Aug 2012 #3

No...and poor, but prompt, and substanceless, attempt. Zorra Aug 2012 #5

Don't mischaracterize your brilliant prose. Robb Aug 2012 #7

"The important thing is you've found a new bogeyman." great white snark Aug 2012 #19

Two lawyers disagree. Film at 11:00. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #23

David Allen Green is a shill, for the Third Way. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #32

Klamberg's main point in his blog post was... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #48

Thank you. Deliberate misinterpretation of the discussion by the anti-Wikileaks sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #130

*sigh* another strawman. Wealthy private interests are have been a primary enemy of the Democrats Zorra Aug 2012 #58

... Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #9

So you support the Third Way? rhett o rick Aug 2012 #17

I stand for a lot of things Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #20

Fair enough. Then tell me what you do stand for. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #21

She/he was aggressively in favor of the corrupt bank bailouts, as I recall. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #24

Care to post a link to where Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #31

It's been hours now Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #49

Are you serious? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #25

As I expected. You will denigrate progressives but wont explain rhett o rick Aug 2012 #27

And as I expected Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #29

What is a progressive democrat to you? What issues are important to them? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #38

Is this a pop quiz Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #47

You seem unaware that there is a Progressive Caucus in our Party that goes by that very name Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #66

And you seem unaware Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #77

I see you proclaim that others 'self proclaim' but that's not what is being discussed... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #79

OMG! Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #80

The question is what do you care about? I have asked that question to rhett o rick Aug 2012 #89

Exactly who are "you guys"? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #91

"jeopardize the reelection of our President Barack Obama by continuously denigrating progressives to Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #119

Ah, no particular positions on any particular issues? Zalatix Aug 2012 #134

It seems there is a contingent here Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #137

Temper, temper. Just because you can't answer "what is a Progressive Democrat to you" Zalatix Aug 2012 #138

Please re-read my post at #137 Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #140

Don't need to. Zalatix Aug 2012 #141

As I've told you before Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #142

You're not arguing. You're throwing a tantrum and hurling personal attacks. Zalatix Aug 2012 #143

Look, sweetie Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #144

LOL at your enraged tantrums. "I know you are but what am I?" is all you've got left. Zalatix Aug 2012 #145

Projection ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #147

Seriously, Peewee Herman called and he wants his taunts back. Zalatix Aug 2012 #148

What's interesting is that those who oppose Wikileaks, also oppose OWS. The two most sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #35

Out of respect, sabrina1 Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #51

There's nothing ridiculous about what she said. Zalatix Aug 2012 #55

I completely support OWS. Wikileaks not so much. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #63

OK tama Aug 2012 #105

Care to offer a link to " certain posters starting every OP or reply Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #72

The answer: nothing. Zalatix Aug 2012 #149

They believe in "whatever Pres Obama believes". But that's as far rhett o rick Aug 2012 #150

And criticizing Obama on ANYTHING puts you outside the big tent. Zalatix Aug 2012 #154

Right after the election in 2008, the Democratic machine decided rhett o rick Aug 2012 #155

And THAT mindset is why the Democratic Party keeps shifting to the right. Congratulations! Zalatix Aug 2012 #33

What mindset is that? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #45

"Welcome to Litmus Test Underground" Zalatix Aug 2012 #56

Here are the "self-proclaimed true progressives". Tell me, what "mindset" do have a problem with? PassingFair Aug 2012 #62

It would seem more than obvious Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #76

lol. Don't want to give a straight answer to a direct question? Little Red Riding Hood: Zorra Aug 2012 #60

I see you got a nice children's book Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #78

Accurate labels for all things have been the most common form of human communication Zorra Aug 2012 #116

A lot of words to say one simple thing Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #121

+100,000, sing it loud, we're leftists AND PROUD!!! Zalatix Aug 2012 #135

Bullshit.. sendero Aug 2012 #88

I never argued the fact that the Third Way isn't an actual organization Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #90

If it quacks like a duck and it walks like a duck... Zalatix Aug 2012 #146

lately it's become abundantly clear that yes, sometimes they are... mike_c Aug 2012 #16

It's not nice to insinuate that he is a shill. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #18

Where they belong is NOT in a civilized society. Zalatix Aug 2012 #34

Many of them are, let's be honest. Marr Aug 2012 #37

I quickly stopped too hfojvt Aug 2012 #73

Superb analysis. 99Forever Aug 2012 #4

Exactly. nt Zorra Aug 2012 #6

Yep. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #40

The Third Way is nothing but Bush Doctrine Redux. formercia Aug 2012 #8

Indeed, I thought the topic referred to RNC coverage... kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #156

Third Way tama Aug 2012 #10

Kick. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #11

Well stated... About time somebody comes out and says the obvious fascisthunter Aug 2012 #12

The swamping of DU with the Third Way shite is undermining this site's functionality. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #13

They are permitted, welcomed, and protected on the site. woo me with science Aug 2012 #98

Yep, seen that lie all over the Assange threads here. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #14

Thank you for shedding some light on the Assange drama 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #15

K&R! If one of them suggested harvesting the organs of undocumented immigrants, backscatter712 Aug 2012 #22

K&R idwiyo Aug 2012 #26

Thanks. Cleita Aug 2012 #28

Good, AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #30

Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc. bobthedrummer Aug 2012 #36

I don't know it's Third Way, but I'm sure some organization is systematically astroturfing here. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #39

They don't need to pay more than one or two people. Those who actually sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #41

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratsForProgress Aug 2012 #52

Yet another example of Greenwald's now long history as a fuckeddy-faced little liar. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #43

Lol, that's an awful of work to try to discredit Greenwald. HB Gary had him on their list sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #44

Translation: "Anyone who dislikes Greenwald is a paid operative or a stooge" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #68

Are they? I don't believe I have ever said that. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #71

David Allen Green is WRONG and no less a person than Klamberg shows why along with sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #46

Before he ranted on Greenwald, he expressed his "disappointment" in Baltazar Garzon... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #59

Lol. The ptbs went after Garzon also because he went after the Bush criminals sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #64

No, I mocked Garzon for spouting whackadoodle crap about grand juries, and then I mocked him struggle4progress Aug 2012 #65

Please note what Prof. Kevin Von Heller actually cites: AntiFascist Aug 2012 #50

So first Greenwald, trying to argue his view, misrepresents both Klamberg and Heller struggle4progress Aug 2012 #53

Uh, did you notice Greenwald's response... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #54

Greenwald first misrepresents Klamberg as supporting Greenwald's view, and then (when it struggle4progress Aug 2012 #67

Greenwald did not misrepresent Klamberg. As has been proven to you now several sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #70

Red herring? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #74

From your second link: ronnie624 Aug 2012 #61

Any legal issue can be argued from both sides treestar Aug 2012 #124

That is true. BUT Greenwald's technique is worth noting: what he does is quote people who disagree struggle4progress Aug 2012 #126

I despise the Third Way and the DLC from which they were birthed tavalon Aug 2012 #57

Agree....sadly... KoKo Aug 2012 #92

K&R for a fresh blast of much needed truth. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #69

"New" Democrats ??!!! bvar22 Aug 2012 #75

Will someone explain what The Third Way has to to with Greenwald's argument? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #81

I'll support my recommendation... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #82

It seems a ridiculously tenuous connection muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #85

Third Way is not just a Think Tank... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #87

The Gates Foundation is in on it, too. At least that's the latest claim.... msanthrope Aug 2012 #127

Yeah, it's a bizarre tangent. cemaphonic Aug 2012 #83

"Extradition to Sweden" is not the issue we are against... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #84

they won't... the dishonest narrative must be repeated, and repeated to "Catupult the propaganda" fascisthunter Aug 2012 #94

When are republicans going to do their version of 3rd way? craigmatic Aug 2012 #86

Ron/Rand Paul...might be the beginnings of their own Third Way...n/t KoKo Aug 2012 #93

Not really because it'd still be conservative. craigmatic Aug 2012 #95

That already happened, in 1985, the heart of the Reagan era. Zorra Aug 2012 #122

I know about the DLC but my point was where is the republicans' moderate version of it? craigmatic Aug 2012 #128

I just received this email from TYT Oilwellian Aug 2012 #96

Thanks, I guess. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #152

Kick. woo me with science Aug 2012 #97

kick woo me with science Aug 2012 #99

It's really quite simple. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #100

Bullshit, woo me with science Aug 2012 #101

Occupy! AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #102

Yup, that's the typical response woo me with science Aug 2012 #103

Yup, that's the typical response AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #106

Shame on you. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #107

back at ya in spades AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #108

The corporate shilling is thick here and across the internet, and transparent as hell. woo me with science Aug 2012 #109

parse away, apologist AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #110

As I said, transparent as hell. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #112

^ projection AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #113

I wonder if astroturfing has procedures... woo me with science Aug 2012 #114

Rape apologist bingo! AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #115

Thank you for that stunning pink Bingo! example woo me with science Aug 2012 #117

LOL. You tout an opinion post on a message board as scripture. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #120

I'll ask again, when will those who are putting so much energy into this sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #133

As soon as someone is accused of rape he's pretty much guilty in your book. Zalatix Aug 2012 #136

So.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #123

apparently ... AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #125

Two activists who worked to help victims of sexual assault are members of a "cult of personality"? backscatter712 Aug 2012 #132

Wrong, the two women have not spoken publicly since the sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #131

It is only simple because you choose to think so. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #151

What would make the Third Way disappear? Public funding of elections. librechik Aug 2012 #104

Yup. The entire process is corrupted and controlled by corporate interests. woo me with science Aug 2012 #111

Great point! Zorra Aug 2012 #118

+ 1 million. Doesn't France use public funding? Zalatix Aug 2012 #139

kick Zorra Aug 2012 #129

bless your little heart for trying so hard to diss dems instead of republicans. dionysus Aug 2012 #153

kick4progress Zorra Aug 2012 #157

^ Zorra Sep 2012 #158