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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Sat Apr 20, 2019, 09:47 AM

7. conspiracy with foreign adversaries, fraud, obstruction

I think we open an investigation first, with the intent clearly conveyed to the public that it's to decide how to proceed with the pending impeachment--as people keep mentioning in op-eds, etc., impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one, and I wouldn't be surprised if the republican-controlled senate just stonewalled the whole thing somehow, and I sure wouldn't expect a conviction. The point as far as I'm concerned is to get all of this nastiness exposed more publicly so that it's really and truly only the most hardcore fascists who would consider voting for the asshole next time around.

E.g., I wouldn't expect impeachment to result in removal from office, but I think we need to start the process anyway, as a matter of principle, even if we slow-roll it before actually filing the articles, so we can get more and more information in the public sphere...like in 1974 or whatever.

And if something happens in the meantime that changes the situation (one too many KFC buckets, obvious incontinence and vacant-eyed drooling in the middle of some televised speech; or whatever), we will have to adapt.

I don't know, in some respects I feel like it's already too late, but we have to make at least a symbolic gesture of trying to uphold the rule of law. So yeah: impeach.

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