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Bigmack

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8. I've never understood...

Reply to Big Orange Jeff (Original post)

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:49 PM

Aug 2012

..how some pro-life people can be OK with abortion after rape or incest or to save the life of the mother.

It's intellectually inconsistent. If I can use the word "intellectually" here.

Hey... if you believe all that stuff about "souls" and life beginning at conception, you have to believe that God put a soul in that fetus, no matter the circumstances that led up to that event.

Saving the life of the mother..? Hey... God's Will and all that stuff.

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My conversation with a pro-life friend today... [View all] Big Orange Jeff Aug 2012 OP

Wow. Well done! gateley Aug 2012 #1

Nice job! silverweb Aug 2012 #2

thinking? what a concept. spanone Aug 2012 #3

I know... Big Orange Jeff Aug 2012 #5

I have Jewish friends who told me that life doesn't begin until its first breath outside the mother. freshwest Aug 2012 #22

It may come from Genesis 2:7 dflprincess Aug 2012 #24

That sounds like the beginning of it, but they have other books to go along with that set of books. freshwest Aug 2012 #25

It's in one of the psalms, too. "Thou hast been my God since I was born." aquart Aug 2012 #56

That's the one the fundies base their belief on: freshwest Aug 2012 #60

That actually makes sense treestar Aug 2012 #37

When you can survive outside the mother's womb is a good definition for life. MatthewStLouis Aug 2012 #38

Reminds me of their "abortion stops a beating heart" treestar Aug 2012 #39

Also makes sense from the other end: Qutzupalotl Aug 2012 #41

I believe that life begins when you first throw-up on another human. Schema Thing Aug 2012 #44

Sick . . . but funny! fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #46

I'm not Jewish, but I believe it's in the Talmud. sweetloukillbot Aug 2012 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #62

well done proud patriot Aug 2012 #4

Now tell him about Rmoney's career as an abortion profiteer. baldguy Aug 2012 #6

Good job! nt avebury Aug 2012 #7

I've never understood... Bigmack Aug 2012 #8

I once knew someone like that. rebecca_herman Aug 2012 #28

Save the life of the mother would still be fairly consistent jeff47 Aug 2012 #29

I'm pro life and I agree with you. A rapist's child should not be aborted. Th1onein Aug 2012 #66

lol CatWoman Aug 2012 #9

Good one, CatWoman... Big Orange Jeff Aug 2012 #32

I've been thinking of an analogy for quite some time now: How many people are on this bus? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2012 #10

Perfect! Cognitive Dissonance in action. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #11

Binary thinking is hardly thinking at all, but it is so prevalent Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #12

Priest: "Life begins at conception." rocktivity Aug 2012 #13

I'm old enough to remember when the Church used to teach that life didn't begin until,... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #14

I read a book a long time ago, unfortunately don't remember it by now treestar Aug 2012 #35

"The Church is just against the woman deciding anything." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #40

What is that? treestar Aug 2012 #42

Check the following link... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #43

Like him or hate him Jesse Ventura nails it on abortion Mnpaul Aug 2012 #15

I agree and the rapist should have no say in the decision making at all - he should be in jail. Booster Aug 2012 #20

And here is one for the Ayn Rand fanboys Mnpaul Aug 2012 #16

So Ryan cherry picks Rand just like he cherry picks the Bible. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #33

Good one. I recommend.... AlbertCat Aug 2012 #17

Thanks for sharing this Cha Aug 2012 #18

visitation daybranch Aug 2012 #19

the jedi truth trick - the smarter ones get it sometimes... geckosfeet Aug 2012 #21

Game-Set-Match. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2012 #23

If he really believes a fetus has a right to be born it doesn't make sense for exceptions. dkf Aug 2012 #26

That was exactly my concern... Big Orange Jeff Aug 2012 #27

Wow! Very well done! emsimon33 Aug 2012 #30

Anti-choice Flying Squirrel Aug 2012 #31

I prefer forced birth dbackjon Aug 2012 #50

Cool treestar Aug 2012 #34

Thank you! Iris Aug 2012 #36

Bingo. That's why the "no pregnancy from rape" myth is so important. DirkGently Aug 2012 #45

The problem with life sometimes is that black and white mmonk Aug 2012 #47

Your friend just proved he's Pro Choice. lunatica Aug 2012 #48

You go!!!! Don't let pro-lifers have it both ways! citizen blues Aug 2012 #49

I'm sorry to be a wet blanket, but... 99Forever Aug 2012 #51

Because their goal is to make it not legal nor private. jeff47 Aug 2012 #55

Ceding the high moral ground from the start... 99Forever Aug 2012 #57

No, you aren't on the high ground. jeff47 Aug 2012 #58

Nonsense. 99Forever Aug 2012 #59

What, exactly, is defensive? jeff47 Aug 2012 #61

Go back to my original post and figure it out for yourself. 99Forever Aug 2012 #63

So....there's nothing "defensive" then? jeff47 Aug 2012 #64

I can't teach the willfully blind to see. 99Forever Aug 2012 #67

So still got nothing then? jeff47 Aug 2012 #68

Just gotta have the last word, eh? 99Forever Aug 2012 #69

You mean "anti-abortion," not "pro-life," right? shireen Aug 2012 #53

Awesome! Paka Aug 2012 #54

Read this book When Abortion was a crime. Revlon10 Aug 2012 #65