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hack89

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72. Yes they did.

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:36 PM

Mar 2019

the entire conversation on the Bill of Rights was all about enumerating individual rights to put limits on government powers.

More to the point, at every time in our history, private ownership of guns independent of membership in the militia has been the norm. What you described never happened in reality.

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So the Dolt45 tax plan kicks in ... [View all] aggiesal Mar 2019 OP

Wow. Shell_Seas Mar 2019 #1

Mortgage interest deduction changes? Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #2

No ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #3

How did you lose $50k in deductions? metalbot Mar 2019 #5

That was just the easist example ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #6

Are you sure you aren't in the 1% ? MichMan Mar 2019 #9

Median home price in Bay Area is $820,000. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #12

Yup. Strange how the high cost of living states are all Blue States. unitedwethrive Mar 2019 #22

Should allowable deductions vary depending on where you live ? MichMan Mar 2019 #28

You cant do that D_Master81 Mar 2019 #91

It's not a millionaire thing. Lots of households make $100K a year with two wage earners. haele Mar 2019 #21

In some areas it is...but make no mistake these people are upper middle class - they are doing UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #30

Go to any real estate website and check out listings in southern california Merlot Mar 2019 #45

So it caps out at $750,000 for a home loan fescuerescue Mar 2019 #13

With a 30 - 40 year mortgage and a hefty down-payment (usually a small inheritance or family "loan") haele Mar 2019 #23

There are other SALT deductions that are capped and those are payroll related. Also if you have more uponit7771 Mar 2019 #8

This is EXACTLY our situation !! uponit7771 Mar 2019 #7

I have read that it most certainly is PatSeg Mar 2019 #11

I have Trumpster friends ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #16

But, but, they have their "guns". ooky Mar 2019 #17

They obviously have never read the 2nd amendment ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #18

Militia, State or National Guard service was never a prerequisite to gun ownership in the U.S. meathead Mar 2019 #24

Read the Federalist Papers ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #25

Excellent posts. Thanks underpants Mar 2019 #26

Thank you ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #67

Yet gun ownership in America has always been an individual right not linked to the miltia hack89 Mar 2019 #31

Oh, for fuck's sake. Squinch Mar 2019 #36

So there are no such laws. hack89 Mar 2019 #46

Go away. Squinch Mar 2019 #49

Not until you concede to the truth hack89 Mar 2019 #50

You just never get it. No one is discussing this with you. Keep screaming at the wind. Squinch Mar 2019 #54

Except I didn't start this sub-thread hack89 Mar 2019 #55

Can't do it, ffs Crabby Appleton Mar 2019 #84

I remember reading that this extremely wide interpretation of the second amendment Karadeniz Mar 2019 #56

There is very little case law on the 2A hack89 Mar 2019 #58

With all the important stuff going on in USA, there are still a few for whom GUNZ are all important. Hoyt Mar 2019 #57

I didn't start this sub thread. hack89 Mar 2019 #59

It's a wreck because of unreasonable gun owners and their lobbying groups. Hoyt Mar 2019 #60

No. It is because of a lack of wide and deep public support hack89 Mar 2019 #61

WHAT? aggiesal Mar 2019 #65

Then show me the case law. hack89 Mar 2019 #66

I don't give a rats ass, who it is accepted by ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #69

The entire Bill of Rights is about individual rights hack89 Mar 2019 #70

Yet none of them spoke about individual rights concerning guns at the Constitutional Convention ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #71

Yes they did. hack89 Mar 2019 #72

Except for the 2nd Amendment ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #73

But it never happened in reality hack89 Mar 2019 #74

So let's just ignore the first half of the 2nd Amendment ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #75

We have ignored it our entire history hack89 Mar 2019 #76

Don't be such a sore winner ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #81

They don't mean what you think they do hack89 Mar 2019 #83

OK, so now you have to have the last word. Go for it. n/t aggiesal Mar 2019 #85

I think I made my point . hack89 Mar 2019 #86

So no one outside our 2019 militia has guns? meathead Mar 2019 #89

I didn't say that ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #90

Quotes every favorable Federalist opinion, but no laws.... meathead Mar 2019 #88

National Guard is _part_ of the militia metalbot Mar 2019 #38

So there's no legal requirement. Thanks for the confirmation! meathead Mar 2019 #87

The years of media brainwashing is pretty PatSeg Mar 2019 #19

So state land property taxes are combined to meet the threshold? allgood33 Mar 2019 #44

Sp state income taxes and property taxes are combined to meet the threshold? allgood33 Mar 2019 #78

Dolt45 changed all that ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #79

God Bless you ... LenaBaby61 Mar 2019 #80

Wow, sounds like you lost $50k in deductions then!! MichMan Mar 2019 #4

A person that owns a business having a down year in revenue can easily rack that up. Blue_true Mar 2019 #63

Whoa! PatSeg Mar 2019 #10

I feel you. I had to pay up as well. Yavin4 Mar 2019 #14

I agree, ... aggiesal Mar 2019 #15

My wife loses all job related itemization workinclasszero Mar 2019 #20

How about rownesheck Mar 2019 #27

Nitpick: You don't go to jail for not paying taxes metalbot Mar 2019 #39

Oh. rownesheck Mar 2019 #40

There are a lot of American shoes I wouldn't want to be in this year. DFW Mar 2019 #29

They've added $325k in housing costs while... theboss Mar 2019 #32

No, you didn't read the post DFW Mar 2019 #34

I read that as the bought a third house? theboss Mar 2019 #37

They paid the $75,000 off DFW Mar 2019 #41

They work in NYC and make a combined $60k? theboss Mar 2019 #42

Yes, they work in NYC and have a combined income of around $60,000 DFW Mar 2019 #43

I wouldn't call buying a house for $125K and selling it for 400K unlucky MichMan Mar 2019 #47

I thought I had it bad paying 5K more. You poor thing! Squinch Mar 2019 #33

I feel your pain... In It to Win It Mar 2019 #35

That's rather close to what I get in SSDI for 3 quarters. Kaleva Mar 2019 #48

Same story everywhere BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #51

Let me guess.... Turbineguy Mar 2019 #52

My accountant just responded today... Zoonart Mar 2019 #53

I think the rule is if you file early, you expect a return, file later expect to pay. Blue_true Mar 2019 #64

+1, DFW it's not the cost its the property taxes and we were able to discount sales taxes too and uponit7771 Mar 2019 #68

Wow. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #62

Haven't done my taxes yet but expect the same dhol82 Mar 2019 #77

Mine went down a decent amount MichMan Mar 2019 #82