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Miles Archer

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Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:09 AM Mar 2019

Dan Rather: "I suspect most of the president's political opponents were disappointed because..." [View all]

https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10161598230490716

We are now in the aftermath of the bombshell. Not the report itself, at least not yet, but the summary of the report by an attorney general who may or may not have used his position to protect the president.

What do we know? Some things, some pretty important things.

What do we not know? A lot.

We know that the president was not engaged in a conspiracy to collude with the Russian government in its interference with the United States election. We know this after a man of integrity, Robert Mueller, assembled a team of top-notch investigators and spent years looking into the evidence. We should trust that verdict. We also know that the investigatigation led to multiple serious prosecutions and guilty pleas of people very high up in the Trump campaign. We cannot forget that.

Almost everything else is at this point up for interpretation. Were there other nefarious connections with Russian businessmen and the Trump family and organization? Perhaps. Others are investigating. Was there obstruction of justice? Hidden or in plain sight? Matters of interpretation up until now, but the report may contain much more information. We need to see it. There is so much left to find out. And the fight now begins in earnest, in Congress, in other jurisdictions, and ultimately with the American electorate.

But make no mistake, the president and his allies will claim this as an unadulterated and complete victory. This is of course an overstatement but it is not without any grounding in reality.

Many opponents of President Trump are deeply disappointed - for multiple reasons. Many wanted Mueller to uncover a conspiracy so vast and so damning for the President that bipartisan impeachment calls would crescendo. That hope has crashed against the rocks of the reality of Mueller's findings. And everyone should accept that or risk playing the same game with the truth as the President and his enablers.

Others are disappointed that a report that likely is full of nuance and reams of evidence was allowed to be characterized for the public by an attorney general of questionable independence from the man he serves. That is a fair criticism and worry. And the diversity of headlines in the press as to how to summarize the findings show the fight for how to frame the report will continue.

But I suspect most of the president's political opponents were disappointed because they felt that this report and the way it will be used will give fresh energy - maybe they fear even unstoppable energy - to the reelection of a president whom they feel is unfit for office for many, many reasons that go far beyond any question of Russian electoral collusion.

To these people I say, steady. It is almost 600 days until the 2020 election. Which in "newscycle years" is an eternity. In the give and take of politics, you can be beaten but not defeated. For those who feel like they did after the 2016 election, don't forget how you felt after the 2018 election. Ultimately to defeat Trumpism and not just the president will require a verdict from the American people. And we have seen that the votes are there but not without a fight. And that fight would have continued no matter what Robert Mueller found.

The president will crow about this as complete vindication. He will gin up crowds chanting his mantras in syncopated aduration. He will rally his Republican enablers and solidify his base. All that is true. Online his supporters will gloat and denigrate any storyline that does not parrot this simplistic view. They will demand fealty to all that is Trump. To those who feel his tenure in office is anathema to the America they know, this will be infuriating.

If that anger leads to despair, the destiny of this nation will shift much more to President Trump's vision. But if that anger leads to a deep resolve that it shall not be so, then America will likely have a very different journey ahead.

The battle lines for 2020 are clear. The question is who will show up to fight for their beliefs, to organize, and ultimately to vote.
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I hope those posting defeatism and despair here will read this. Tipperary Mar 2019 #1
I'm already blocking those posters leftynyc Mar 2019 #6
+1000 Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #11
OH Jeez - give people a break ! It is a 100% natural response to be angry and vent for a while Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #14
I hope so leftynyc Mar 2019 #23
Me neither. I hear ya. The thing about it Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #35
Same here leftynyc Mar 2019 #44
Well, I generally block posters that have no patience yaesu Mar 2019 #33
Those who post one or two threads, sure. But those posting umpteen ops of surrender are tiresome. Tipperary Mar 2019 #48
That's the difference between GOP and Democrats. GOP does not hide their true feelings be they allgood33 Mar 2019 #19
I'm angry also leftynyc Mar 2019 #25
Ikr? One wonders if the surrender folks here will even bother to vote. Tipperary Mar 2019 #49
If they don't leftynyc Mar 2019 #52
That is your perogative, but I am certainly not going to block them. olegramps Mar 2019 #65
Those that thought this report leftynyc Mar 2019 #66
+1000 ancianita Mar 2019 #12
The defeatism and despair was somewhat inevitable at first... Miles Archer Mar 2019 #40
Stop attacking other Democrats for voicing their opinions and feelings... Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #63
He forgot: "Courage". Aristus Mar 2019 #2
Yes. This is where our character shows. nt coti Mar 2019 #47
LMAO... ADX Mar 2019 #54
The battle lines are clear? They rigged the election. Chin music Mar 2019 #3
Bingo!! I stopped reading Blather when he called Mueller a "man of inegrity." HAHHH!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #29
THIS.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #36
Absolutely right Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #43
+1 Chin music Mar 2019 #50
+1. Mueller is a technocrat constrained by legal tradition, radius777 Mar 2019 #58
It specified "Russian government" NewJeffCT Mar 2019 #4
+1. And why is everyone accepting that there was no collusion as a FACT - while Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #16
The whole fucking thing is BEYOND iffy!! The fix was in from the start!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #30
Exactly. Dan wass overly gracious and accepting on the particular point in my view. Just because KPN Mar 2019 #24
"We know that the president was not engaged in a conspiracy to collude with the Russian government." watoos Mar 2019 #5
EXACTLY. That statement is NOT ACCURATE. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #10
THIS KPN Mar 2019 #26
THIS is key. Rather glaringly mischaracterized the facts. JudyM Mar 2019 #15
True. And what I don't get is why Comey added all this shit about Hillary that Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #17
My reaction to that statement was similar. We don't know there was no collusion. We know Mueller Shrike47 Mar 2019 #45
"Russian gov't" is the weasel wording in Barr's letter, radius777 Mar 2019 #60
"The question is who will show up to fight for their beliefs" lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #7
I strongly disagree with this sentence: Jarqui Mar 2019 #8
Holy crap - exactly! Same thing I said. We know Barr CLAIMS that. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #9
An what kind of news reporting is it now that the headlines on every network are Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #18
"Lazy" is the most charitable explanation. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #20
But our Dems should be driving that too. It's like Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #22
Sigh. Yes. Again. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #27
Congress can use preponderance of evidence to impeach. Will they? Not without our help. KPN Mar 2019 #39
1974 GOP might have but 2019 GOP Senate won't. They're too morally corrupt and Jarqui Mar 2019 #41
I.e., we are screwed if we don't win the KPN Mar 2019 #46
What makes you think this nation can survive to the 2020 election? Chin music Mar 2019 #51
Rather is speaking as if he has read Mueller's entire report. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #13
+1. Everybody is speaking that way; especially disappointing from Rather. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #21
One thing we can say for sure... world wide wally Mar 2019 #28
Too many assumptions regarding Russia SHRED Mar 2019 #31
He's trying to make us feel better... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #38
lol Facebook! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #32
I do not accept the four page letter from Barr, and I feel Dan Rather is accepting it Perseus Mar 2019 #34
Thanks for the pep talk Dan. Not so much for the BS! KPN Mar 2019 #37
Dan can completely MISS me .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2019 #42
Occupy the Streets, and regain our Democracy. Chin music Mar 2019 #53
Disagree on no collusion/ conspiracy or whatever you want to call it Meowmee Mar 2019 #55
What I do not understand zentrum Mar 2019 #56
Remember, in 1962 Nixon was destroyed in the California governor election, and he said: George II Mar 2019 #57
I wish that the Media would stop presenting it as a win/lose proposition Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2019 #59
Actually...Dan, you may be wrong jmowreader Mar 2019 #61
Why the fuck didn't Mueller make Trump testify? Bill Clinton testified for Starr. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #62
I think Mueller accepted written answers to questions in lieu of a subpoena. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #67
There's no excuse for not at least testing it in the courts. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #68
I totally agree. You raise a good point, though. Did Barr tell Mueller to wrap it up? Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #69
Michelle Obama 2020 is all I will say. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #64
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