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Stuart G

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16. I beg to differ. Public education is a form of "socialism"

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:09 PM

Mar 2019

Of course it is not defined that way. But the government provides it for everyone. I guess it depends on how one looks at it..or defines it. What about "public roads?" Public transportation? The New York subway system is provided by the government, built by the government, for public use. It is subsidized by the government. Of course it is not called "socialism." At one time, there were private systems that ran transit systems. So, they went broke, and the government took them over. Is that it? Good or Bad?

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About "socialism"?... Is there evidence of it here in the U.S.A.? [View all] Stuart G Mar 2019 OP

Some cities have public water and electric utilities DBoon Mar 2019 #1

Thank You for adding those ideas. Yes, they are important.. nt.. Stuart G Mar 2019 #3

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2019 #23

Step one...look up definition of socialism...and it is none of the things you listed. EX500rider Mar 2019 #2

Sounds like a capitalist's definition of socialism. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2019 #5

It is the dictionaries definition. nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #8

Damn captialist pig dictionaries...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #41

Apparently....lol...it's a plot I tell you!! nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #43

I guess we have a different view of socialism, or socialistic ideas. Stuart G Mar 2019 #6

Words have actual meanings, not just ones you make up. Mine came from MirramWebster. nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #7

Exactly Horizens Mar 2019 #18

+1, looks like people have an idea of something and the technical meaning doesn't mean crap uponit7771 Mar 2019 #24

noun vs adjective loyalsister Mar 2019 #62

None of the things you listed is what watoos Mar 2019 #10

All I did was post the actual definition of socialism if you meant to respond to me. nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #11

"Maybe we should check the definition of fascism?" EX500rider Mar 2019 #37

I wish I had a dollar fescuerescue Mar 2019 #27

Mostly because many people seem to have no idea what it means nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #38

Everybody thinks they do fescuerescue Mar 2019 #58

I'd actually never seen that before. Sparkly Mar 2019 #51

Keyword there is "various." Sparkly Mar 2019 #50

Which all involve the govt owning the means of production....which never ends well. nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #52

this is a ridiculous argument. Repeated a million times here. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #53

Economic theories like socialism have specific meaning regardless of peoples misinterpretations nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #54

true. which doesn't mean a thing regarding lay peoples interpretations . Kurt V. Mar 2019 #55

Other then they may be incorrect. nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #56

Here's my point. it doesn't matter if they're incorrect (they are). Kurt V. Mar 2019 #59

Nope Horizens Mar 2019 #4

...I guess that is your "opinion." A very long time ago, education was for the wealthy. Stuart G Mar 2019 #12

Definition of words are not "opinions" You can actually look them up. EX500rider Mar 2019 #39

Co-ops? Karadeniz Mar 2019 #9

yes, kinda like..."socialism" depends on who you talk to. Owned by the workers..correct? Stuart G Mar 2019 #14

some co-ops are owned by employees. Some not. fescuerescue Mar 2019 #28

I get my electricity from a co-op. they have annual gatherings to voice our opinion Kurt V. Mar 2019 #60

Nothing you listed is socialism. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #13

I beg to differ. Public education is a form of "socialism" Stuart G Mar 2019 #16

No. None of those are examples of socialism. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #20

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2019 #25

Socialism pamdb Mar 2019 #15

Oh NO NOT MEDICARE TOO??? i LIKE THAT ONE. Stuart G Mar 2019 #17

OH..."FOOD STAMPS".....YES... republicans did not like that one at all.. Stuart G Mar 2019 #21

Both 2naSalit Mar 2019 #19

It's amazing really kennetha Mar 2019 #22

No, not self delusion. If one looks deep within the definition these are socialistic. Stuart G Mar 2019 #26

Are you trying to say that wherever you have public highways kennetha Mar 2019 #29

Public Highways are financed through taxes. Not all the taxes pay for cost of the highways. Stuart G Mar 2019 #31

If, per Merriam-Webster, scialism is public ownership of means of production, then yes, of course. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #40

No no no! kennetha Mar 2019 #44

Pure socialism, or pure capitalism, are both myths. In either extreme case, lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #48

Socialism does not mean "the government taking care of everyone" brooklynite Mar 2019 #30

I agree, "Socialism does not mean, "the government taking care of everyone." Stuart G Mar 2019 #33

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Kurt V. Mar 2019 #61

Here's the definition for Capitalism... Xolodno Mar 2019 #32

And I agree with the last sentence completely..It is a ...."mixed system" Stuart G Mar 2019 #34

We are all in mixed market economies. Socialism and capitalism work applegrove Mar 2019 #35

Oxford English Dictionary moondust Mar 2019 #36

+1 "owned or regulated" is the key. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #42

Stop it! kennetha Mar 2019 #45

tongue-in-cheek, right? lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #49

Here's solcialism... SidDithers Mar 2019 #47

Its time we just embrace socialism! Joe941 Mar 2019 #57

I think as soon as we mention liberty and justice for all... Sparkly Mar 2019 #63

roads and the military? uriel1972 Mar 2019 #64