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In reply to the discussion: Capitalism is not sustainable over the long term. [View all]raging moderate
(4,297 posts)122. We can change that. We have to work together to stop the trend toward fascism.
We have to get back our government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Abe Lincoln knew something about struggle against almost insurmountable odds. We have to rock the vote. I remember, back in 2004, how GW Bush looked so worried and then, after a phone call, he suddenly looked so smug. He knew some kind of fix was in. And so did the other right-wingers. And I remember, in 2008 and 2012, the shock on the faces of the right-wing pundits. They thought they knew some kind of fix was in. I think we the people surprised and overwhelmed their schemes, just by massively showing up.
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But we don't think in terms of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years.
PoindexterOglethorpe
Mar 2019
#16
No it hasn't, Capitalism is a product of the Industrial revolution, so maybe 200 years so far...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#58
True, though Mercantilism I would say is a type of Proto-Capitalism...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#95
I was trying to be generous, by the way, after all, if Capitalism does date back that far....
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#81
Yeah, true, it does seem like Capitalism, at the very least, requires the existence of a large...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#97
True but I was rltalking about recent chattle slavery and European imperial genocides. Nt
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#121
Sort of. But it hasn't been the world's dominant economic system for that long.
DanTex
Mar 2019
#112
Not really, its just the most recent in a long line of differing systems that humans have used...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#59
There have been, but most of the time they were crushed by one of two forces...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#98
No. I was replying to a person who seems to think nazis were socialists - they were not.
aidbo
Mar 2019
#116
Again, that's a false talking point. The contemporary socialists were not fooled..
aidbo
Mar 2019
#120
If capitalism and socialism were on the ballot the former would win.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2019
#43
AMEN AND AMEN!!! I've been studying this for some time and every one of those have ended
uponit7771
Mar 2019
#55
I don't have a plan. But we should start a discussion of a post-capitalism nation. n/t
Yavin4
Mar 2019
#42
We need a gradual movement away from capitalist control of govt. to citizen control.
Yavin4
Mar 2019
#52
If you are saying government should be the employer of last resort I agree with you.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2019
#73
Jesus knew this 2000 years ago, and I say that as an atheist, but Republicans need to read the bible
Doodley
Mar 2019
#40
We can change that. We have to work together to stop the trend toward fascism.
raging moderate
Mar 2019
#122
Mostly because they rely on their natural resources or a large amount of "free trade"....
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#61
And what would socialism rely on? It would also need natural resources or trade with other countries
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#62
True but such trade, without there being a profit motive, wouldn't have to be exploitative...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#78
That would only make theoretical sense in a case where we had a single socialist government,
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#88
I would call it a misnomer to call it a "Socialist" government, Democratic is preferable...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#90
Yes. You described a government that sounds like what they had in Communist China.
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#91
So China was a worldwide stateless economy? What are you talking about?
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#101
Interesting post and responses. I have herd that late stage capitalism is State Monopoly
c-rational
Mar 2019
#49
Capitalism has become almost a religion in the US. Deregulation is destroying Capitalism.
walkingman
Mar 2019
#51
Capitalism as practiced now needs to brutally oppress the underclasses...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#60
Capitalism is simply the private ownership of the means of production for profit by said owners
Yavin4
Mar 2019
#64
Without govt subsidies, those companies would not invest in environmentally targeted entities
Yavin4
Mar 2019
#100
Capitalism is great at creating wealth. It's absolutely shit-horrible in DISTRIBUTING that wealth.
HughBeaumont
Mar 2019
#65
Yes it is. But what we have in the US is not capitalism, it is capitalist socialism which is not
cbdo2007
Mar 2019
#79
You seem to not know what words mean, what are you talking about? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#82
Its a very weak Social Democracy, but it certainly isn't Socialism...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#84
Social Security is an example of a socialist program as is Food Stamps and Medicaid.*
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2019
#85
Its Social Welfare and might be supported by Socialists, but isn't, in itself, Socialist...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2019
#86