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PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
85. Agreed.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 09:44 PM
Mar 2019

Trump can't hold a candle to Obama. But Obama was not perfect. Definitely a bit to my right. Yet, he was who was needed. The country was sliding to an economic abyss and we needed some good old-fashioned Keynesian economics to get us out of it. That's what we got, along with the ACA.

Now, I think Obama was the best president in my lifetime (I'm 60) by virtue of the scope and magnitude of his accomplishments.

How old is Omar, maybe 20-something? She's in a whole different generation, a generation that has never enjoyed the opportunity we boomers had. 44 million people are slaves to student debt. These kids can barely afford a car and an apartment. There's nothing, nothing good - they had their friends blown away in the forever war, they have been exploited every which way but loose, and they have seen old white greed-heads pollute this world until it is almost too late to ensure its continued habitability.

Omar's comments remind me of the old movie Cross of Iron, with James Coburn as Rolf Steiner. They are on the Russian front. It is 1943, the beginning of the end as the Germans were forced to retreat across the Taman Peninsula towards the Crimea, which was itself in the process of being surrounded.

Rolf leads a rag-tag platoon and he's in the Colonel's dugout. The Colonel tells him, "I'm getting tired of getting you out of trouble with other officers," and Steiner replies, "I never asked you to."

This infuriates the Colonel, who tells Steiner to 'get out!'

On the way out, the adjutant asks Steiner why he is so ungrateful, and Steiner looked at him unbelievingly and replied, "WHAT do I have to be grateful FOR?"

Same thing with Omar and the whole Millennial generation. As I say, they have been screwed every which way but loose in this capitalist utopia of ours.

So, just a warning, I guess - when these kids get their voice, and they ARE getting their voice, we shouldn't insist on liking what they have to say, because we've left them a world that is much worse, less forgiving and more tilted against them than the one we found.

Omar Has Opinions. Get Used To It. [View all] Stare Decisis Mar 2019 OP
That's the power of the internet outrage machine training jberryhill Mar 2019 #1
I don't have to agree with her, but i want to hear what she has to say. I want to see how she votes allgood33 Mar 2019 #2
Obama should not get a pass wellst0nev0ter Mar 2019 #109
Yes. i adore Obama and Carter. Both were the most decent men to occupy the WH in my lifetime. allgood33 Mar 2019 #112
Love Omar... criticizing women with strong opinions is nothing new. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #3
When she compares Pres Obama to leftynyc Mar 2019 #15
Some folks are cool with that, apparently. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #19
how is that not a strong opinion. bc she hates war....? Kurt V. Mar 2019 #66
It wasn't a strong opinion, it was a moronic one. John Fante Mar 2019 #107
to no avail is only your (and many tweeters) opinion. that doesn't make it fact. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #108
She has backers? Whoopity doo. So does Jill Stein. John Fante Mar 2019 #110
I know right Lotusflower70 Mar 2019 #102
Good chrst! Are you kidding. Women can't be criticized malachi Mar 2019 #54
excellent observation still_one Mar 2019 #76
Agree 100% Lotusflower70 Mar 2019 #103
I agree ZeroSomeBrains Mar 2019 #63
The cult of personality developing around Obama on here is, frankly, alarming. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #4
I don't think the country moves forward Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #6
Very well said. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #9
Spot on. Scruffy1 Mar 2019 #60
Agreed. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #85
not agreeing with the idea of him as a polished Trump treestar Mar 2019 #7
She didn't say he was a polished Trump melman Mar 2019 #10
Among other things, she said Obama had the same policies but they were more polished. Plus... George II Mar 2019 #24
"Spin it any way you want. " melman Mar 2019 #30
Yes, spin it any way you want. George II Mar 2019 #32
I'm not spinning anything melman Mar 2019 #33
Rep. Omar says Obama was a more polished version of Trump, and suggests -- incorrectly -- that Obama j Cha Mar 2019 #37
Children were NEVER jailed nor was there "caging of children". George II Mar 2019 #44
It's a travesty.. Omar owes Pres Obama a huge apology. Cha Mar 2019 #48
That's probably not going to happen. i was never ok with Obama's Kurt V. Mar 2019 #59
I understand that and neither was I, but Cha Mar 2019 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #61
Makes you wonder whose side is she on. brush Mar 2019 #65
Now you're just insulting members who Cha Mar 2019 #35
I would say the same thing about the cult of personality developing around Omar. onenote Mar 2019 #43
This, too, was said last primary uponit7771 Mar 2019 #67
What cult of personality? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #73
hmmm, The cult of personality developing around Omar on her is, frankly, alarming still_one Mar 2019 #77
So you also believe he's just a well-dressed version of Trump? John Fante Mar 2019 #111
She's not doing herself or the party any favors FrankBooth Mar 2019 #5
Anything can be fodder. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #8
Respectfully disagree. FrankBooth Mar 2019 #11
+1. Welcome to DU. Well put. mahina Mar 2019 #21
The GOP even used the color of Obama's suit as fodder, they should never be taken serious yaesu Mar 2019 #51
That's what I think. She is not ready for prime time. marylandblue Mar 2019 #12
the dem brass throws people under the bus all the fucking time 47of74 Mar 2019 #82
Bullshit! There not afraid of what Republicans will say. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #88
And if she keeps this up, someone may start to primary her a year from now. Get used to it. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #13
Yes, she has opinions. stewrat Mar 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Mar 2019 #20
Do we need more of this: dalton99a Mar 2019 #16
Thanks for this, dalton.. I am PISSED! Cha Mar 2019 #38
I refuse to be a human pinball for the right's use to divide us. mahina Mar 2019 #17
Did they right force her to say incredibly dumb shit? malachi Mar 2019 #57
Really! Lying about Pres Obama has nothing to do with Cha Mar 2019 #106
Yeah, if her opinion is... Adrahil Mar 2019 #18
Get used to the pushback. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #22
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #23
Did you take a poll? tonedevil Mar 2019 #25
Did you? kcr Mar 2019 #26
I didn't try to speak for most of DU. /nt tonedevil Mar 2019 #27
But you're ok with the OP, who did. kcr Mar 2019 #28
I don't see where the OP... tonedevil Mar 2019 #31
I'm fine with her. apcalc Mar 2019 #29
Too late, unfortunately. theaocp Mar 2019 #34
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #36
Indeed. See post 39 kcr Mar 2019 #40
I wonder how some who seemed to love her "opinion" so much will like this one? kcr Mar 2019 #39
Thank you for posting this. mjvpi Mar 2019 #64
The tweet was scrubbed... what did it say? JudyM Mar 2019 #90
Omar Coming! IronLionZion Mar 2019 #41
Many missed my point. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #42
I'm not asking her bow down to factions or crater to any media onenote Mar 2019 #45
You're not going to tell us what to do or think kcr Mar 2019 #46
If her opinions are anti semetic get used to kelly1mm Mar 2019 #47
I will never "get used to" ANYONE saying that Obama was "get(ing) away with murder"! George II Mar 2019 #49
I hope she doesn't tarnish the Democratic party. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #50
She needs to get it together keepFocused06 Mar 2019 #52
Are you Jewish? JudyM Mar 2019 #92
no keepFocused06 Mar 2019 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #98
Same reason a white person opining about whether something is racist matters. Or a guy about sexism. JudyM Mar 2019 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #101
Mouth in forward brain in nuetral? oldlibdem Mar 2019 #53
I stand with Barack Obama. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #55
Why'd she run as a Democrat and then proceed to bash Dems? brush Mar 2019 #56
I have to censor myself from saying worse. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #58
I know. She needs to study the history of what forces... brush Mar 2019 #75
Circular firing squad. I get so fucking sick of it Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #62
She shouldn't have called President Obama an empty suit. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #68
She has the right to say whatever the FUCK she wants to say Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #80
She shouldn't have suggested President Obama is an empty suit. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #81
I agree with you, BUT Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #83
My friend... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #84
Totally agree. We have to protect the right to different opinions. LAS14 Mar 2019 #97
Her takedown of Elliot Abrams was brilliant. mjvpi Mar 2019 #69
I don't have to "get used to her". I don't like her, and I don't care for her divisive rhetoric, still_one Mar 2019 #70
Some Democrats disagree with and are even offended by her opinions. Get used to it. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #71
So do the rest of us. Hassler Mar 2019 #72
My thoughts Meowmee Mar 2019 #74
+1 BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #79
Hillary Clinton won her district by fifty five points. Let that sink in. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #86
+1. She has a history of expressing antisemitic sentiments that she has been enlightened about JudyM Mar 2019 #94
+1 nt Meowmee Mar 2019 #113
The reckoning has begun. empedocles Mar 2019 #78
We have "Opinions" about her opinions.. Get Use To It. Cha Mar 2019 #89
I have opinions also so get use to it..... Little Star Mar 2019 #91
She needs to learn the lessons of today. MicaelS Mar 2019 #93
If you are simplistic enough... LAS14 Mar 2019 #96
Identity politics demands loyalty to your identity group. jalan48 Mar 2019 #99
Get used to the fact that not every Democrat is on board with her. Her opinions can be criticized RelativelyJones Mar 2019 #104
Omar Deleted her "Opinion" Tweet. Cha Mar 2019 #105
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