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BigmanPigman (40,966 posts)

2. That statement got me thinking...

my experiences and observations of bosses of both sexes. I'm with you.

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67 year old woman here..long and varied work history...Most of my female bosses were horrid. [View all]	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	OP
Women bosses can be really shitty to other women, men bosses can be shitty to women and men,	elleng	Feb 2019	#1
That statement got me thinking...	BigmanPigman	Feb 2019	#2
My women bosses were absent and my worst male boss was afraid	mahina	Feb 2019	#4
In men dominated businesses, women have to prove themselves and do much more to be viewed on par.	TheBlackAdder	Feb 2019	#21
HUMANS (male & female) CAN BE "REAL SHITTY" TO WILDLIFE! WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGE:	Jeffersons Ghost	Feb 2019	#30
Why did you post this here?	procon	Feb 2019	#47
This message was self-deleted by its author	tenderfoot	Feb 2019	#84
Thanks 'so much' for your non-responsive reply.	elleng	Feb 2019	#138
Please remove this image. It has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. n/r	Ms. Toad	Feb 2019	#154
I've alerted on it	Frank Leemydear	Feb 2019	#226
Chinese satellites preventing concentration on topic at hand?	LanternWaste	Feb 2019	#199
That's nice	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#3
Lucky duck.	mahina	Feb 2019	#5
That's good.	Croney	Feb 2019	#65
My teenaged daughter and I just watched that	janterry	Feb 2019	#115
Thanks Pixar. Pretty good !	mahina	Feb 2019	#129
Right.	Laffy Kat	Feb 2019	#6
I wasn't raised to judge bosses...my mom or Nanas never worked...	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#11
whatever	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#43
?????	elias7	Feb 2019	#46
Any one makes claims that the OP did is dealing in women bashing in my opinon...what is there to	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#51
I agree. What could possibly be the aim here, other than to say that women don't make	Squinch	Feb 2019	#53
It sure is...your sex does not determine you ability to be a boss or president for that matter.	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#54
No one is saying that gender determines ability to lead	elias7	Feb 2019	#185
Change the word "woman" to "Black or Latina" and think about it.	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#186
The OP is perpetuating sexist bullshit, based on anecdotal experience. This is the same kind of	still_one	Feb 2019	#156
I know, right? To be so dismissive of a woman's opinion and...	Beartracks	Feb 2019	#122
Spot on.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#24
So the OP is incapable of identifying difficult people on her own?	Beartracks	Feb 2019	#121
I worked for close to 50 years, a mix of men and women, and I couldn't characterize...	George II	Feb 2019	#161
What is the point of the OP and the conversation in the first place?	Eliot Rosewater	Feb 2019	#201
Well spotted, Eliot	Hekate	Feb 2019	#218
This nt	lillypaddle	Feb 2019	#215
Some of my best bosses were women, some of the worst	Drahthaardogs	Feb 2019	#7
I've had two female bosses my entire life.	Glamrock	Feb 2019	#8
I can't think of a woman boss I have had that was bad. And some were fabulous. I have had	Squinch	Feb 2019	#9
For the last 15 years of my job I knew more than all my bosses and supervisors	lunatica	Feb 2019	#10
I had one lady boss at an Ins Agency when I was early 20s	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#12
I've had very few female bosses, but they rank among the worst I've ever had.	milestogo	Feb 2019	#13
A long time ago, I worked in a bank. My supervisor was a woman, and her boss was, too.	Aristus	Feb 2019	#14
My best boss was a woman and my worst boss was a woman.	jalan48	Feb 2019	#15
Only had one woman boss, a sweet grandma when I was a a just-divorced 33 yo....	Hekate	Feb 2019	#16
I've heard that	ismnotwasm	Feb 2019	#17
Some women nurses are really difficult with women doctors	RockCreek	Feb 2019	#37
This is a thing	treestar	Feb 2019	#88
Had great female and male bosses and many that weren't so great	Jake Stern	Feb 2019	#18
Totally agree nt	Raine	Feb 2019	#19
I think some people are just corrupt with how they use power	Beringia	Feb 2019	#20
Sure, tell the truth, but be up front. Don't hide behind anonymity	question everything	Feb 2019	#22
I've had 3 female bosses; 2 bad and 1 good. n/t	area51	Feb 2019	#23
So...based on your personal experiences	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#79
What triggered you to write this OP? Are you writing a memoire?	SharonClark	Feb 2019	#25
Title:	betsuni	Feb 2019	#29
perhaps you have writing talent, also !!	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#35
...	betsuni	Feb 2019	#48
what language are you speaking here...	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#52
LOL	betsuni	Feb 2019	#62
That's pretty nasty	LiberalLovinLug	Feb 2019	#153
Oh dear me!	NurseJackie	Feb 2019	#205
Unbelievable...I hate this post and it pisses me off to see such a post from a liberal	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#41
tone it down there kid...	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#59
Say what you want but this discourages women as bosses and as presidential candidates... I have to	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#61
once again my post was MY personal history	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#94
You are saying that women bosses are shitty...using your personal history.There is a difference.	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#98
what part of MY experiences are you not getting?	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#100
100% this	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#42
BINGO	sorcrow	Feb 2019	#49
Nailed it.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#50
Same here.	LakeArenal	Feb 2019	#105
My thinking exactly.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Feb 2019	#159
Agreed, I have a "friend" who has 6 bothers and siters who all "all mean"	womanofthehills	Feb 2019	#181
I am a writer	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#34
Are you? What do you write? I would love to read some of your work.	PTWB	Feb 2019	#109
I doubt you will get an answer.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#165
Here is some of her work:	demmiblue	Feb 2019	#182
Wow. Just wow.	PTWB	Feb 2019	#208
Plagiarism seems a habit	lillypaddle	Feb 2019	#216
I'm sorry to have to say this, but a good writer does not use ellipses the way you do.	athena	Feb 2019	#114
Thank you. I was just debating whether to post something to that effect.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#123
Thank you.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#166
Maybe because it is in the news now. What a rude question. nt	USALiberal	Feb 2019	#85
Just another "Not THAT woman" screed. n/m	RhodeIslandOne	Feb 2019	#189
Female bosses? They're still bosses.	dchill	Feb 2019	#26
'Lady boss': horrid, jealous, crazy, petty, nasty, pathetic, shitty, bullies.	betsuni	Feb 2019	#27
My Mom said this to me AT THE TIME..I was in my 30s	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#32
Funny, I rarely see male bosses subjected to such ...like wow male bossess are really shitty.	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#40
Yes it does	Bradshaw3	Feb 2019	#82
Yeah, I am with you on this one.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#39
If absolutely all your female bosses were awful,	KitSileya	Feb 2019	#28
good on you	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#33
My take also was your post was about Amy Klobuchar, however, my wife would second	c-rational	Feb 2019	#56
This isn't sexist drivel....	Dorian Gray	Feb 2019	#31
Well it was a mixed bag for me,	duforsure	Feb 2019	#36
It is hard to see such a post my liberal women. I have had shitty bosses of both sexes.	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#38
Thank you. nt	raccoon	Feb 2019	#168
Yeah - not so much these days	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2019	#44
My two worst bosses	get the red out	Feb 2019	#45
177 IQ?	PTWB	Feb 2019	#55
Somehow, when a person actually posts the words "I am very bright,"	Croney	Feb 2019	#68
Must be a very stable genius with	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#77
+1000	smirkymonkey	Feb 2019	#127
I always had good female bosses.	MuseRider	Feb 2019	#57
Generalization	snowybirdie	Feb 2019	#58
Nearly every boss and supervisor was pretty good on average.	Tetrachloride	Feb 2019	#60
Interestingly, almost all my bosses	mrs_p	Feb 2019	#63
I'm 69 and had the same experience	The Blue Flower	Feb 2019	#64
I think you're right about that	peggysue2	Feb 2019	#179
I was the most beautiful of all the women..... and my IQ ...higher than all of you............	womanofthehills	Feb 2019	#184
This thread makes me want to leave DU	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#66
Good article.	Croney	Feb 2019	#70
Exactly.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#71
This kind of thinking is why we have a despot in the WH	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#73
No kidding. Even a woman with an "IQ of 177" apparently is not in favor of breaking that ceiling.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#74
The "1" in front of the number	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#75
Lol, I just got what you said, but then my IQ is not 177.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#169
I AGREE	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#96
another anecdotal experience from my wife age 64	at140	Feb 2019	#108
My first company commander was a woman...	Blanks	Feb 2019	#67
Thank you. I left a job in December after 90 days...	GreenEyedLefty	Feb 2019	#69
When your complaint is about how the story was released...	brooklynite	Feb 2019	#72
So are you in favor of a woman president?	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#76
177 IQ, eh?	Heddi	Feb 2019	#78
I currently have a male boss for the first time since 2007	underpants	Feb 2019	#80
My worst boss was male	crazycatlady	Feb 2019	#81
This message was self-deleted by its author	tenderfoot	Feb 2019	#83
What constitutes "horrible" might be in the eye of the beholder to some extent,	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#86
"To some extent"?	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#93
Why is it sexist to suggest that a female boss can be horrible? Male bosses can be horrible;	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#95
This was your sentence:	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#101
Again, how is that sexist?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#103
Not what you said.	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#107
If I had said female bosses are objectively horrible, that would have been sexist and false.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#116
""But female bosses can be objectively horrible."	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#120
One more try and then I'm giving up.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#125
Give up. That's not what you said.	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#130
+1	Croney	Feb 2019	#126
WOW! You have an IQ of 177?	cwydro	Feb 2019	#87
Even neater	Heddi	Feb 2019	#91
my youngest sibling is near 200	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#97
Interesting, but not especially meaningful.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#111
I was just responding to a nameless faceless person on here doubting my IQ	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#118
An IQ of 177 would make you 1 in 3.5 million people	muriel_volestrangler	Feb 2019	#152
So with that level of intelligence - why so many bosses? Why were you not the boss?	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#209
You forgot to add in the photographic memory.	MrsCoffee	Feb 2019	#221
Especially since the Stanford-Binet test tops out at 170.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#113
Really really cool	forklift	Feb 2019	#193
I am 70	HockeyMom	Feb 2019	#89
STEPHEN HAWKING IQ: PHYSICIST CALLED PEOPLE WHO BOAST ABOUT SCORE 'LOSERS'	Heddi	Feb 2019	#90
They had to increase the score ceiling because of Trump.	Oneironaut	Feb 2019	#112
Actually, there are several different IQ tests, with different "highest" scores...	Hekate	Feb 2019	#225
I'm surprised that most have been awful. I haven't had	Hortensis	Feb 2019	#92
This is such a strange post - I'm not sure what to take from it	nini	Feb 2019	#99
I think the only thing we can take from it is that the OP had bad experiences	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#106
I'm taking from it that too many DU'ers are sexist	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#110
+1	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#211
Anecdotes aren't data.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#102
It might just have been the times, bad luck	janterry	Feb 2019	#104
This post is a beautiful demonstration of why Trump is president today.	athena	Feb 2019	#117
You are so right!	lunamagica	Feb 2019	#131
Thank you for telling the truth.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#119
What truth exactly?	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#124
I never said that women should not be in management positions. That is your wrongful interpretation	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#134
This is one of the most sexist posts in	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#136
Our experiences are different. That's all.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#137
That's a cop-out excuse	JenniferJuniper	Feb 2019	#140
Omigod.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#143
Uh... You didn't say we shouldn't glorify them you vilified them.	MrsCoffee	Feb 2019	#190
And you glorified them.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#194
I did no such thing.	MrsCoffee	Feb 2019	#196
My apologies. I was following the thread of conversation, and not the poster.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#206
"Yes, to think that women are going to be our allies out here, is a fantasy."	demmiblue	Feb 2019	#142
It's my experiences.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#144
Most humans can see beyond their personal experiences in order to understand the broader picture.	demmiblue	Feb 2019	#147
I don't think you would apply that as a "universal truth", would you?	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#149
"Yes, to think that women are going to be our allies out here, is a fantasy."	demmiblue	Feb 2019	#150
Let's get specific.	Baitball Blogger	Feb 2019	#151
All my bosses have been women. Great people.	IluvPitties	Feb 2019	#128
So, you don't think a woman should be POTUS?	lunamagica	Feb 2019	#132
They were jelous of your 177 IQ? How did they know about it??	lunamagica	Feb 2019	#133
I said that MAY have been a reason	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#135
An IQ of 177 and you say you're "smarter than them"?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#145
But my question was, how did they know what you IQ was?	lunamagica	Feb 2019	#162
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2019	#163
"I will bet you are a WOMAN"	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#174
I, too, wondered how many people get tested...	Phentex	Feb 2019	#207
It's totally trumpian. Also James Woods and Sharon Stone love to brag about their high IQs, but what	lunamagica	Feb 2019	#213
hahhahahahhahahaha	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#172
FWIW, I'm male and have had good and bad women bosses.	brush	Feb 2019	#139
brush, I got a strong feeling that most	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#148
Just wow.	MrsCoffee	Feb 2019	#178
Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out...	Hekate	Feb 2019	#224
I'm a man and I worked 19 years at my last company.	MicaelS	Feb 2019	#141
A mixed bag of bad bosses	happybird	Feb 2019	#146
anecdotal evidence is meaningless. I have had a varied career of over 30 years from Chemist in the	still_one	Feb 2019	#155
Now I'm reminiscing about some 40 years of bosses, bad and good.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Feb 2019	#157
My mother was one of those southern...	Duppers	Feb 2019	#158
"Nothing sexist?"	jcgoldie	Feb 2019	#160
then you would be wrong	jodymarie aimee	Feb 2019	#164
No, I guess you vote with your "IQ of 177." Right?	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#167
"I don't vote with my vagina."	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#170
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2019	#175
Are you saying you are "gender blind?" (nt)	ehrnst	Feb 2019	#176
Jody why are you using that phrase?	irisblue	Feb 2019	#180
HAHAHAHHA I was wondering what Post Removed	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#192
I freaking hate that phrase. 👹👹👹👹👹	irisblue	Feb 2019	#197
Same!	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#212
Goodbye.	NurseJackie	Feb 2019	#204
I'd offer people donuts, but she took the box when she left.	lapucelle	Feb 2019	#222
A small price.	NurseJackie	Feb 2019	#223
+1	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#171
I bet your very pretty, 177 IQ self was just a dream to work with	TexasBushwhacker	Feb 2019	#173
I have had some really good female bosses.	Mosby	Feb 2019	#177
FFR177. n/t	demmiblue	Feb 2019	#183
Well deserved! n/t	seaglass	Feb 2019	#187
FINALLY	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#191
Oh dear. Lol.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#210
My current boss is a woman	RhodeIslandOne	Feb 2019	#188
I don't think I have had any really shitty bosses. Male or female.	LiberalFighter	Feb 2019	#195
Well at least no one asked if they should wear a swim suit.	MrsCoffee	Feb 2019	#198
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++	still_one	Feb 2019	#202
I'm in my 50s	NewJeffCT	Feb 2019	#200
61 year old woman here & I have always preferred to work with & for women.	CrispyQ	Feb 2019	#203
Most "bosses," i.e., managers	lillypaddle	Feb 2019	#214
Most of my black bosses were horrid	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#217
Amazing isnt it.	Eliot Rosewater	Feb 2019	#219
It makes my head spin, man!	obamanut2012	Feb 2019	#220
I have had both Male and Female bosses - both bad and good bosses....Whether they were good or bad	Pachamama	Feb 2019	#227
What the fresh hell is this?	liberalmuse	Feb 2019	#228
"Long and varied work history." Not what most employers consider a good work record.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#229

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