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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
19. As opposed to direct invasions, like Israel prefers?
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jan 2012

These are not "proxies" in the sense that Iran created any of them. Hamas and Hezbollah grew in the resistance to Israeli occupations and aggressions, and turned to Iran for arms. That doesn't mean Iran runs either.

The Mahdi Army is a laughable example, since it's not a proxy of Iran at all. They oppose Iranian influence in Iraq, and the Iranian proxy if anything is the Badr Brigades, nowadays largely known as the Interior Ministry. Iran has direct influence in the Bagdad government and an uneasy relationship with Moqtada and his Mahdi Army; even when it hosts him to stay on the good side of all Iraqi Shiites.

Wikipedia not bad:


Although Muqtada Al-Sadr has historically had close ties to Iran, he has generally opposed Iranian clerical and political influence in Iraq. Unlike the Al-Hakim family, of the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council and many leaders of the Dawa party who fled to Iran following the Persian Gulf War and remained there in exile until the American invasion in 2003 Muqtada al-Sadr and his family remained in Iraq throughout Saddam's rule. The refusal to leave Iraq garnered the Sadr family much support during and after the collapse of Saddam's regime. Early 2006, al-Sadr pledged military support to Iran and other neighboring Islamic countries if they were to be attacked by a foreign nation.[28] Since then, however, Al-Sadr has opposed the Dawa Party, and in March 2008 Prime Minister Maliki ordered a major offensive targeting the Mahdi Army in Basra.[29]
Purely defensive moves to placate Israel. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #1
Bull sheet! comipinko Jan 2012 #3
They are defensive systems. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #5
Why now?? comipinko Jan 2012 #6
Because Iran has an election in March hack89 Jan 2012 #11
so, who's setting up the scenario? newspeak Jan 2012 #22
What a relief! Bragi Jan 2012 #8
Or it could deter an Iranian attack on Israel hack89 Jan 2012 #13
What country has Iran attacked, lets say in the last 30 years? Why would they teddy51 Jan 2012 #17
Through their proxies? hack89 Jan 2012 #18
As opposed to direct invasions, like Israel prefers? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #19
They are the means by which Iran wages war. hack89 Jan 2012 #20
oh please newspeak Jan 2012 #23
Hezbollah was formed in opposition to Lebanon. ieoeja Jan 2012 #25
Anyone but you, I'd laugh at the ironic remark. But I know you're serious. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #12
And I know your biases as well - guess we are even. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #14
Oh, goody!! comipinko Jan 2012 #2
We have to pull out all the stops here. Scootaloo Jan 2012 #4
I hear greece has some great hummus newspeak Jan 2012 #26
Right on schedule. Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #7
Iran will never attack Israel unless provoked. tabatha Jan 2012 #9
+1 ellisonz Jan 2012 #27
Hmmm Marrah_G Jan 2012 #10
I don't know which of your two sources is more problematic. EFerrari Jan 2012 #15
Its also 'electioneering' for the coming year Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #16
yeah, well ahmanjhad what's his name newspeak Jan 2012 #21
The JPost article is also mirrored in its entirety at the Office of the Secretary of Defense (LINK) Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #24
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