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26. Let's not get too conspiratorial. Manafort-Putin is enough.

Sat Feb 16, 2019, 01:09 AM

Feb 2019

Yes, it's true that in Putin's Russia, oligarchs and corporations and the spy services all do crimes and use money to buy Western interests.
Yes, it's true that Manafort is likely a Russian asset.
Yes, it's true that Putin attacked America by using money; American oligarchs have as much in common with Russian billionaires and Putin as they do with American workers.

But we don't have to go farther than that. Maybe Mogilevitch is involved in election hacking. Or maybe not.

But we KNOW everyone in Russia reports up to Putin. And we have two links:
Trump -> Manafort -> Kilimnik -> GRU -> Putin
And
Putin -> Peskov/oligarchs -> Moscow Tower dangle -> Cohen -> Trump

That's collusion we know about. Let's not get too speculative about crime bosses and the mob until we get new real info about them.

There's enough bad stuff between Putin and Trump.

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The real reason Manafort willing to serve 24 years... [View all] pbmus Feb 2019 OP

Yep. WheelWalker Feb 2019 #1

I'm honestly surprised Manafort is still sentient. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #2

Does sentient mean alive? PeeJ52 Feb 2019 #10

It means not brain dead from a special Russian cocktail... 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #13

Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #3

So trump is just a poor victim? Hoyt Feb 2019 #4

No, just a greedy fucking real estate whore...part time reality show actor pbmus Feb 2019 #8

+111111! KPN Feb 2019 #24

K&R. n/t ms liberty Feb 2019 #5

Yep! FM123 Feb 2019 #6

In Conspiracies this Far-Reaching, There is Always More to the Story dlk Feb 2019 #7

Okay, given what Manafort probably knows, Dan Feb 2019 #12

The FBI.gov link in the thread Kitchari Feb 2019 #9

Exactly....and Welcome to DU pbmus Feb 2019 #11

Thanks, pbmus! Kitchari Feb 2019 #17

Does anyone have a link to Mueller's speech on video? MelissaB Feb 2019 #14

I think this is the Mueller speech mentioned here. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #18

Yes, that's the speech. I'm looking for the video. MelissaB Feb 2019 #25

K & R mac56 Feb 2019 #15

looks like GOPer elixir Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #16

#MoscowMitch and the #Russiapublicans - Traitors to America Achilleaze Feb 2019 #37

Deripaska and the Senate Russiapublicans are best buddies (nt) Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #38

they need to put trump on suicide watch certainot Feb 2019 #19

Or provide the cyanide liberaltrucker Feb 2019 #27

he has stories to tell certainot Feb 2019 #31

Holy crap, I'm 4 tweets in and both relieved and terrified. zaj Feb 2019 #20

So what happens if the take-down is successful? Mme. Defarge Feb 2019 #21

K&R orangecrush Feb 2019 #22

KICK bluestarone Feb 2019 #23

Let's not get too conspiratorial. Manafort-Putin is enough. sharedvalues Feb 2019 #26

As much of a squirel Manaforts is, I think it was threats to his family that makes him want to do it world wide wally Feb 2019 #28

corrupt government official McConnell LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #29

Putin Is The Don RAAD2 Feb 2019 #30

I would say so.. who's the whipped one Cha Feb 2019 #34

What are the chances Manafort is doing both...lying for show and cooperating with wiggs Feb 2019 #32

He must have had MFM008 Feb 2019 #33

IMO, our MSM has not delved enough into transnational crime (and trump's role in it). Most Nevermypresident Feb 2019 #35

US media needs to get off their knees and tell these stories Achilleaze Feb 2019 #36

The weakest link (in the defense against such gangs) is corruption of Govt. officials / bureaucrats. BSdetect Feb 2019 #39

Right on. And the lack of conflict of interest rules for Congress and the Supremes plays right into JudyM Feb 2019 #40

We are SO god damned fortunate Al Franken caught Sessions in... Pluvious Feb 2019 #41

K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Feb 2019 #42