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wellst0nev0ter

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36. If we see Israel as just another sovereign nation
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 09:11 PM
Feb 2019

outside the ethno-religious context, saying that a government-led spin campaign "hypnotizes" the perception of what was a clearly asymmetric military offensive would be as banal an observation that one can possibly make.

And also, Omar's original "hypnotize" tweet contains neither the words "spite" nor "expose." Correct me if I'm missing something.

"Anti-semitic tropes" [View all] wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 OP
Anymore ? When was it possible ? OnDoutside Feb 2019 #1
I guess when Bush the First wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #2
It is obvious that ANY criticism of Israel or its policies... MicaelS Feb 2019 #3
Let's see if anybody calls me anti-semitic DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #4
That means you support circumcribing the debate wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #8
I managed to criticize Israel without invoking anti-semitic tropes. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #9
You literally just invoked guilt by association wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #10
I tried to be civil. Now you are patronizing me. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #12
And now you are applying the same smear to me wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #16
What game? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #17
Hopefully you don't think wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #40
I care what Duke thinks. I care what Trump thinks. I care what Steve King thinks. pampango Feb 2019 #58
Let's try this again, sans the vitriol DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #37
That same generality does not apply to Palestians wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #39
I have never and would never make sweeping generalizations about any group. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #41
But you don't condemn wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #42
There is a search function. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #43
When using the old standard anti-Semitic dog whistles, perhaps. George II Feb 2019 #24
I think she first used the term "Jewish lobby". That was wrong. Blue_true Feb 2019 #5
The JDL was a domestic terrorist organization. Are they even a thing anymore? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #6
The ADL has spoken out against all bigotry for a long time. Blue_true Feb 2019 #11
Here are the tweets in question wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #7
You make a valid point, I used a term that I got from an article that I read earlier today. Blue_true Feb 2019 #13
Ms. Omar also said Israel "hyptonized the world" and called on Allah to expose them. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #15
This wasn't in a vacuum leftynyc Feb 2019 #20
If DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #21
As would I leftynyc Feb 2019 #25
That's not actually a smoking gun wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #23
Seriously, when did "hypnotize" enter wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #26
If DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #30
She said Israel hypnotizes, not Jews wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #31
How does Israel hypnotize people? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #35
If we see Israel as just another sovereign nation wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #36
Kevin McCarthy is Jewish? TeamPooka Feb 2019 #44
What is it exactly that frazzled Feb 2019 #14
"People died because of such calumnies." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #18
Members of AIPAC make contributions wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #27
Oh, I see frazzled Feb 2019 #45
That's... a reach wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #46
You just said it frazzled Feb 2019 #47
Do you know what the worst part of it is? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #48
+1,000,000 George II Feb 2019 #32
AIPAC is a lobbying group not unlike the Arab Lobby. It is not a PAC, and does not make still_one Feb 2019 #53
This was about one specific tweet leftynyc Feb 2019 #19
Deflection noted n/t wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #28
Deflection from the ACTUAL leftynyc Feb 2019 #50
Hopefully this link wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #51
I'm not wrong leftynyc Feb 2019 #52
That's not how whiteness works wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #56
What part of leftynyc Feb 2019 #60
if Arabs are PoC then so are Jews. Mosby Feb 2019 #71
That one specific tweet was in response to a tweet from Glenn Greenwald talking about... George II Feb 2019 #34
I'm aware of that leftynyc Feb 2019 #49
If AIPAC keeps their bullshit up pecosbob Feb 2019 #22
AIPAC is not going to be a hate group wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #29
Yeah, I was over the top pecosbob Feb 2019 #33
Well Feinstein doesn't support it, nor do a lot of other Democrats, and while the ACLU takes no still_one Feb 2019 #54
The anti-BDS 'laws' happybird Feb 2019 #38
That will go to the courts, and like the flag burning was ruled as constitutionally-protected free still_one Feb 2019 #55
Unfortunately it isn't Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #57
You do realize AIPAC is not a pac, it is a lobbying group, and there is a difference still_one Feb 2019 #59
Really? Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #62
AIPAC as an organization does not. Individuals who belong to AIPAC do, as do individuals from the still_one Feb 2019 #64
Sorry but it seems like a stretch to me Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #66
I don't particularly want to get involved in a discussion of Israel, the Palestinians, or the middle still_one Feb 2019 #67
Bullshit (n/t) leftynyc Feb 2019 #78
Josh Marshall at TPM has a thoughtful edblog post DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #61
This whole episode was disgusting.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #63
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #65
And that was years ago Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #68
Germany let a foot in the door and it resulted in the Shoah DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #69
That is a big stretch Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #70
Is it not possible to criticize Israel without suggesting DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #72
So any criticism has to be defined within some narrow parameters Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #73
If narrow parameters mean not invoking anti-semitic tropes the answer is yes DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #74
Since the source is an conservative opinion writer Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #75
Criticizing Israeli policies and eschewing anti-semitic tropes are not mutually exclusive. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #76
Sorry Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #79
If I said DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #80
As I said Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #81
When Trump told a group of wealthy Jewish Republicans donor he didn't need their money DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #82
Need to know more about incident Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #83
Voila DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #84
Ok Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #85
Keep the conversation about Israeli conduct. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #77
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