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45. GITMO exists

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:19 PM

Aug 2012

And he has released cables that reveal State secrets.

This is not difficult.

He is not a US citizen, and has no protections for the charges of releasing State secrets.

Do you think he wouldn't be locked up tighter than Bradley Manning, who IS a US citizen, if they got their hands on him?

If you do not, you think very little of our military and our intelligence community. I don't think it is right, but they would be idiotic to not lock him up tighter than a drum if they got their hands on him.

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Can someone explain to me what Julian Assange has been charged with in the US [View all] WonderGrunion Aug 2012 OP

He's been charged with nothing, no Administration official has requested pnwmom Aug 2012 #1

That's what it seems to me as well. WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #2

Assange's US attorney has seen the Grand Jury Documents which was seated by the DOJ to sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #16

Are there ANY charges or an extradition filing by the US government? WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #22

Odd that South American foreign ministers would buy into a conspiracy theory... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #42

Why would that be odd? They're not all allies of the U.S. Some of them pnwmom Aug 2012 #52

Sorry I forgot the sarcasm smiley... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #55

They're either taking the theory seriously, pnwmom Aug 2012 #58

Whoa, wait a minuto... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #61

Is there any reason why there is a Grand Jury seated by the DOJ which is being asked to indict sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #43

Show me the link from a reputable source showing this and I'll be happy to discuss this. pnwmom Aug 2012 #54

REPOST LINKS (yet) AGAIN. I see it was *so* worthwhile to do it last time. Pholus Aug 2012 #60

I just looked at the first one again, and it's just a rehash of Assange's claims. pnwmom Aug 2012 #66

It's never the law so why bother with details, it's the prosecutor. Pholus Aug 2012 #83

Have you read any of the leaked Stratfor emails? It was revealed in those leaks that a sealed sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #68

Yes, charges in a sealed indictment according to the leaked Stratfor emails. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #72

Links please struggle4progress Aug 2012 #38

The only Grand Jury I've heard of is investigating Manning. They have to prove his connection pnwmom Aug 2012 #50

You are wrong. The GJ in Virginia was seated for the purpose of indicting Assange on Espionage sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #70

How do we know these emails are genuine? Do we have anything beyond Assange's say-so? pnwmom Aug 2012 #73

What else are they going to say? Notice, he says 'may have been'. Are you really denying sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #75

No, I'm not. I'm saying that we don't know if Manning is the only target pnwmom Aug 2012 #76

Manning has been charged with crimes. There is no GJ necessary AFTER sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #77

This is what I was referring to: pnwmom Aug 2012 #78

Wikileaks had over 2,000 employees/volunteers working for them. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #82

From an article 3 days ago... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #79

Wow, can't trust Julian's supporters on anything treestar Aug 2012 #84

+1 an excellent summation in a few sentences. treestar Aug 2012 #26

It would have been if it had put Conyers' comments in context. Conyers was actually sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #44

There are NO charges of any kind against Assange anywhere. dballance Aug 2012 #81

"quietly" killed? "quietly"? unblock Aug 2012 #3

Ok, it was hardly quiet WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #4

yeah, i don't think they really want to kill him. too heavy-handed. unblock Aug 2012 #5

I don't think they even want to have him arrested. WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #12

If you had read the CIA memos leaked to Wikileaks & published by them on their site you would sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #47

They're not going to blast him with a Hellfire from a Predator - he's in the middle of London! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #57

And by now it would be so obvious treestar Aug 2012 #85

That is a double top secret. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #6

I believe Assange just Wikileaked that the Germans... WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #7

Read this. Cleita Aug 2012 #8

Sounds like Australian for BS WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #9

Apparently, you and others have already make up your minds, put the guy on Cleita Aug 2012 #10

On trial for what? WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #11

Now you are talking and when they Cleita Aug 2012 #13

My point is, I don't think anyone is seriously looking at making a case against Assange WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #17

Assange and others seem to think there is a danger. Cleita Aug 2012 #19

I seem to think I have a winning lottery ticket in the back of my junk drawer WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #24

Why do you ask questions you don't want answers to? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #49

Your post is ridiculous... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #14

According to Wikipedia, the justice department in 2010 was looking if charges WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #20

What about reports of a sealed indictment from 2011? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #27

It sounds more like puffery by Fred Burton to make him look more "in-the-know" WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #31

Oh really? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #36

That's actually an interesting angle I hadn't considered. Robb Aug 2012 #41

You realize, don't you, that the Stratfor escapade ended up being a sting, with the hackers arrested struggle4progress Aug 2012 #39

Then you should notify WikiLeaks and Assange of your brilliant revelation so that they don't worry.. AntiFascist Aug 2012 #40

I agree with the other commenter, but such posts are useful. Regardless of how ridiculous it may sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #51

Yes, because Wikipedia is such a reliable source these days Cleita Aug 2012 #21

I was referring also to the references... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #28

Okay, I didn't mean to jump on you. Cleita Aug 2012 #29

He has a conscience. mmonk Aug 2012 #15

Not allowed by who? WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #23

You seem quite confident... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #46

Shhhh.... must not bring the truth into the Assange whistler162 Aug 2012 #18

Sarah Palin called for his death! treestar Aug 2012 #25

He is charged with exposing governments hypocrisy and incompetence. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #30

Charged by who??? WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #32

That is why they are so pissed at him. How could what I said be a real charge? still_one Aug 2012 #33

One thing Julian is good at treestar Aug 2012 #86

If he's in no danger of extradition DJ13 Aug 2012 #34

Nothing that I'm aware of atreides1 Aug 2012 #35

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #37

GITMO exists Aerows Aug 2012 #45

Sweden has this 'not charged but we wanna talk to you' think going. They seem to have started this. freshwest Aug 2012 #48

Nope. Assange is not wanted for a nice chat but to face criminal process in Sweden struggle4progress Aug 2012 #62

'Criminal process' is very vague. That's the reason for the doubts. Charge him and be done with it. freshwest Aug 2012 #63

No, really, it isn't very vague. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #64

I wrote upthread, this is a EU matter and we do not know in the law of the EU. So I asked. Thanks. freshwest Aug 2012 #67

It's not an "EU matter"; it's a Swedish matter. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #80

I'm beginning to think he's crazy, because at this point treestar Aug 2012 #87

... In the Swedish system formal indictment takes place at a very late stage in proceedings, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #65

TY. And another member explained there is a warrant for his arrest. freshwest Aug 2012 #69

The only power, that Congress has, is to pass laws. Power to prosecute is in the Executive branch. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #71

All that needs to happen is an allegation of something xchrom Aug 2012 #53

Democracy Now had a good interview with Daniel Elsberg about Assange Matariki Aug 2012 #56

Assange has already been the subject of a grand jury investigation in the US. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #59

No charges, just speculation cemaphonic Aug 2012 #74

LOL! Um, no, sorry. Our President cannot kill Julian "the same way we took down Osama bin Laden." Zorra Aug 2012 #88

So, reading through this entire thread, the answer is "No, I can't explain it." WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #89

User posts OP asking for explanation for something, rejects all explanations offered. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #90

But it's a rejection with keen analysis. WonderGrunion Aug 2012 #91