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Apollyonus

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Regarding "Snow White" Bernie Sanders [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 OP

Thanks, Tom. elleng Jan 2019 #1

I don't think Sanders is racist.... I think he is oblivious. Adrahil Jan 2019 #2

I have no problem with those who share your view Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #3

I agree he is oblivious trixie2 Jan 2019 #8

Being "Realistic" Is Like Being a Battered Wife McKim Jan 2019 #59

I stand by my realistic views trixie2 Jan 2019 #67

Yes, I think Bernie and his followers like a simplistic, one-size-fits-all solution. honest.abe Jan 2019 #10

Heh. progressoid Jan 2019 #18

In the case of Bernie I believe its correct. honest.abe Jan 2019 #20

That's a very astute observation and analysis. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #17

Bernie shot himself in the foot, recently, and probably doesn't even realize it. pnwmom Jan 2019 #4

Some (hopefully small) percentage of people primarily vote for someone they can "relate to"... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #7

It might be insulting. progressoid Jan 2019 #27

It might be very, very, rarely true. But when he claimed in the debate that Hillary was saying pnwmom Jan 2019 #28

Blaming voting on gender isn't limited to him. progressoid Jan 2019 #41

Hillary isn't running. But when she was, she never claimed that race was the only factor pnwmom Jan 2019 #55

I never claimed she said race was the only factor. progressoid Jan 2019 #73

True, you didn't say that about Hillary. But Bernie went FURTHER than Hillary pnwmom Jan 2019 #75

Nowhere in those quotes does she say what you claim kcr Jan 2019 #91

Do tell. What are men like me are thinking? progressoid Jan 2019 #95

It isn't true jcgoldie Jan 2019 #54

Sanders needs to just go away hurple Jan 2019 #5

Bernie should take advantage Pantagruel Jan 2019 #6

That would pit him against Biden n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #9

I know there is a rule against bashing Democrats here, so be it, but why are posts removed about... BamaRefugee Jan 2019 #11

I don't agree with your characterization. I think it serves our interests to have Independents... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #14

Well, for one thing, he is a member of the Democratic Party Leadership team aikoaiko Jan 2019 #16

+1 Go Vols Jan 2019 #23

I believe that that position murielm99 Jan 2019 #57

Call me crazy, but I like my Democrats to have a (D) by their name. Can you say "Joe Lieberman"? ;-) BamaRefugee Jan 2019 #96

Becaue Skinner says he is a Democrat PDittie Jan 2019 #86

Well said. zentrum Jan 2019 #12

"But Bernie Sanders does not represent white privileged in America, and a casual reader of this WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #13

"unselfconscious white privilege" LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #38

No, I was trying to get at the concept of not being aware of one's own white privilege, WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #44

Fair enough LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #46

+1. Well said. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #47

"Surely we can look deeper into their character and see more than that." WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #49

What if their actions they do today are actually helping, not damaging? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #68

If someone keeps slipping up, how do I know they don't mean it? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #87

Thanks for taking the time G_j Jan 2019 #15

Thank you for these very well-reasoned and thought-out thoughts. pangaia Jan 2019 #19

Beautifully said ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #21

some real good post on DU today. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #22

Thank you, Tom. N/t RobertDevereaux Jan 2019 #24

Oh please DownriverDem Jan 2019 #25

White people discussing what it is to be racist, is so often a fail. ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #26

+1 n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #33

Thank you, ism. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #63

+++++++ JHan Jan 2019 #65

I was a delegate to the National Convention Gothmog Jan 2019 #29

There are more than a few people who will not support Sanders charlyvi Jan 2019 #30

+1 n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #34

+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #80

I too think that sort of behavior is very problematic. comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #31

"I personally believe that sanders should have vetted his delegates" progressoid Jan 2019 #43

Were you a delegate to the national convention? Gothmog Jan 2019 #66

Sorry, only went to the state level. progressoid Jan 2019 #74

I have been to good number of state conventions Gothmog Jan 2019 #77

It is not about choosing one candidate or another Apollyonus Jan 2019 #32

Thank You. Paka Jan 2019 #35

"That's what happened in 2016 . . ." Really? man4allcats Jan 2019 #36

100% agree! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #39

hillary was robbed becsuse of Putin attack on the election which included helping Sanders JI7 Jan 2019 #53

Putin provided a great deal of aid to the sanders campaign Gothmog Jan 2019 #69

"Bernie would have won the general election" - we will never know. MH1 Jan 2019 #60

Sanders was helped by the Russians and he was the one that was robbed? uponit7771 Jan 2019 #89

Excellent Post Geechie Jan 2019 #37

There was a lot of anti-Semitism directed at Bernie, on DU and on the campaign trail Arazi Jan 2019 #40

+1000. Often transparent to anyone paying attention. JudyM Jan 2019 #71

"Sanders is set in his "economic theory of oppression" ways" LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #42

"You cannot legislate away racism. But you can make laws to ensure a more egalitarian society where WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #45

I would argue that its a very good way LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #48

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There are many scholarly articles on the link between poverty and domestic violence. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #70

Sure, there are links. And poverty certainly makes it harder for victims. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2019 #88

Sanders gets blasted for this kind of thinking because a focus on economic issues pnwmom Jan 2019 #76

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #82

This thread aptly captures my own ambivalent support for Bernie Sanders Boomer Jan 2019 #50

Good post. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #51

So many good posts on this thread, from people with fairly differing opinions about Sanders Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #56

I support Bernie. Whether or not he wins the primary, his voice will be valuable during the debates. earthshine Jan 2019 #58

I guess I do not have to write now MuseRider Jan 2019 #61

"I want younger, female and someone who is not white." earthshine Jan 2019 #81

I was actually thinking only of who I would MuseRider Jan 2019 #92

I start with Bernie because he has the loudest progressive mouth. earthshine Jan 2019 #94

... LexVegas Jan 2019 #62

Since you are sincere... JHan Jan 2019 #64

+1 Garrett78 Jan 2019 #72

but how could lessons be learned from 2016... JHan Jan 2019 #83

Indeed. For 2 years I've been railing against... Garrett78 Jan 2019 #84

Thank you. I read the full article, and I would recommend it to everyone Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #90

Sanders slid in easy the last election. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #78

I won't be that surprised if he decides to not run. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #79

"Bernie Math"; OMG that takes me back LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #85

Some things never go out of style, I guess. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #98

If that. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #93

Probably will switch back. Caucusing with democrats is his schtick. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #97