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22. Because laws restricting abortion don't affect your mythical "truly pro life" person...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:39 PM
Aug 2012

If the person you describe as "truly pro-life" would never get an abortion, they wouldn't get one on any case, including rape and incest.
The law is unnecessary for the person you describe - it's moot.

The laws restrict the access to abortion for people who do not share that absolute opinion on abortion.

...and calling abortion a death sentence for the child is ugly, even if it's hypothetical.

edit: typo

If they were REALLY pro-life they'd care about the baby after s/he is born. Zalatix Aug 2012 #1
+1 LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #3
If they were really Pro-life, RC Aug 2012 #83
Oh, well I must be anti-life gollygee Aug 2012 #2
If they were pro-life get the red out Aug 2012 #4
Don't forget about health care for all too! Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #100
I'm pro-life and I care about ALL of the parties involved, both pre and post birth. Th1onein Aug 2012 #117
Have you adopted any children that a woman who was raped did not want? kiranon Aug 2012 #121
I waited on that douche bag Roberts Maine-ah Aug 2012 #123
I haven't, and I doubt I would be allowed to. Th1onein Aug 2012 #125
Do you vote for anti-choice candidates? get the red out Aug 2012 #122
Pro life and pro fetus are the same thing to me, but NO, I don't vote for them. Th1onein Aug 2012 #131
I'm glad get the red out Aug 2012 #132
Sex education and birth control should be taught from kindergarten on up.... Th1onein Aug 2012 #136
Unrec... cyberswede Aug 2012 #5
I'd repsectfully ask why ag_dude Aug 2012 #6
ag_DUDE Ineeda Aug 2012 #15
How on earth do you think I was arguing for pro-life positions? ag_dude Aug 2012 #21
Because laws restricting abortion don't affect your mythical "truly pro life" person... cyberswede Aug 2012 #22
Do I have to make the point that I'm not... ag_dude Aug 2012 #25
...and I'm just saying cyberswede Aug 2012 #34
Using your logic ag_dude Aug 2012 #40
It's settled law. OilemFirchen Aug 2012 #63
What part of that do you think disagrees with what I said? ag_dude Aug 2012 #73
Not disagreeing per se. OilemFirchen Aug 2012 #84
No, there is a reason for an abortion debate... cyberswede Aug 2012 #93
yup obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #107
consensual incest? really? wtf. spanone Aug 2012 #7
It does happen. ag_dude Aug 2012 #9
Used to be quite common 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #33
Marrying your first cousin is still perfectly legal in many states. Mariana Aug 2012 #49
Miz t.'s grandparents were first cousins. trof Aug 2012 #101
Just curious...who is Dan Savage and will... Tikki Aug 2012 #57
He's writes a sex advice column ag_dude Aug 2012 #61
Thanks, I am always interested advocating for liberal causes... Tikki Aug 2012 #62
He's about 80/20 sex advice/politics ag_dude Aug 2012 #65
The most common form of incest is brother-sister Major Nikon Aug 2012 #58
+1000 geardaddy Aug 2012 #91
Well that's a good belief for you should YOU be raped LynneSin Aug 2012 #8
I'm not sure your argument is in the context of what I'm talking about ag_dude Aug 2012 #12
You should reread what you wrote LynneSin Aug 2012 #20
How so? ag_dude Aug 2012 #23
It's rape LynneSin Aug 2012 #29
I don't think you understood my original post. ag_dude Aug 2012 #32
I think you don't understand your original post LynneSin Aug 2012 #37
The fact that "99%" of people didn't get it ag_dude Aug 2012 #43
Actually, it's a sign that enlightenment Aug 2012 #55
Well said. SfromCanada Aug 2012 #118
Not to me. I got it. dmallind Aug 2012 #39
Most People who call themselves "pro-life" are really "pro-birth" jorno67 Aug 2012 #10
Or the mother's life, for that matter. RC Aug 2012 #86
Very True!! jorno67 Aug 2012 #94
A woman should not ever feel that she has to carry and give birth to the baby TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #11
Amen! GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #24
It really amounts to a lifetime sentence for the victim. lastlib Aug 2012 #119
How do you think the poor kid would feel if he/she ever found out about creepDaddy? lonestarnot Aug 2012 #120
It depends on the kid Marrah_G Aug 2012 #133
My birth mother looks at me with love Marrah_G Aug 2012 #134
They can be pro life but don't dictate what I should be newfie11 Aug 2012 #13
Yes, if people have TRULY fucked up opinions sibelian Aug 2012 #14
Yep gollygee Aug 2012 #17
Unrec for stupid premise and general misanthropy GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #16
Well, I'm pro-pet but that doesn't mean I should have to raise a litter of pit bulls just b/c likesmountains 52 Aug 2012 #18
Your post is correct, though the phrasing has produced some hostile replies cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #19
While it's the internet ag_dude Aug 2012 #28
I'm glad you posted. 7wo7rees Aug 2012 #114
always been ironic. most of us are pro-choice but anti-death penalty. the others are pro-life Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2012 #26
Yes, what you describe is the forced-birth position... ljm2002 Aug 2012 #27
My gosh. ag_dude Aug 2012 #30
Sorry I'm a bit touchy today on this issue... ljm2002 Aug 2012 #41
That was the point. ag_dude Aug 2012 #44
Why don't you either edit your OP to clarify your postion or lock it? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #108
If a person was pro-life they would not support the death penalty. SalviaBlue Aug 2012 #31
death penalty, war, plus they'd be behind national health care and food stamps like crazy gollygee Aug 2012 #35
Exactly. SalviaBlue Aug 2012 #130
How about doing something for the sake of the woman? gkhouston Aug 2012 #36
BINGO! RC Aug 2012 #89
I'm not sure why you're getting hostile replies 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #38
Not Pro-Life, but Pro-Rapist JaneQPublic Aug 2012 #42
Pro-forced-birth Major Nikon Aug 2012 #60
Yes, if a live potential human is the most important thing in the equation it wouldn't matter. nolabear Aug 2012 #45
This is such a strong post gollygee Aug 2012 #47
+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #72
Wow! av8rdave Aug 2012 #113
You did SUCH a good job framing it their way gollygee Aug 2012 #46
You mean, it is consistent. Quantess Aug 2012 #48
I get your point.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #50
I kind of am advocating ag_dude Aug 2012 #54
Pointing out academic inconsistencies in an individual's belief system is as effective and efficient LanternWaste Aug 2012 #51
It may not help them 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #53
Yeah... that'll happen. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #66
Or you could just give up on trying to persuade anyone to your side 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #69
They don't care if a woman will die because of a pregnancy HockeyMom Aug 2012 #52
Thank you for expressing more concern for fetuses than women. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #56
Read the thread. ag_dude Aug 2012 #59
Yes, you did. October Aug 2012 #64
Where did I call it my idea of 'pro-life'? ag_dude Aug 2012 #68
Look, I don't think you meant bad LynneSin Aug 2012 #78
Oh, so it's not 99% now? ag_dude Aug 2012 #80
Read your title LynneSin Aug 2012 #82
ynnesin is right -- it's offensive obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #109
People "get" it, even if misspelled and poorly punctuated. October Aug 2012 #85
I'm making the assumption that you are a man and have no clue Skidmore Aug 2012 #67
What do you think you disagree with me on? ag_dude Aug 2012 #70
You are not critiquing anything there but putting forth Skidmore Aug 2012 #74
Then you missed the point of the entire post. ag_dude Aug 2012 #77
You are saying that it shouldn't matter Skidmore Aug 2012 #79
hey ag-dude handmade34 Aug 2012 #105
I wonder how many woman brought the child into the world and how they feel about doing so. julian09 Aug 2012 #90
As I said, I ultimately did not have to make that choice but I Skidmore Aug 2012 #96
NT Times quote "defacto mouthpiece for conservative agitprop" just1voice Aug 2012 #71
Despite all the disengenuous replies you are getting, this is absolutely correct Major Nikon Aug 2012 #75
If a person is truly pro-life ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #76
Please explain consensual incest? Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #81
Two related consenting adults. OilemFirchen Aug 2012 #87
Except in Rhode Island (in accordance with Wikipedia) Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #98
That's silly. OilemFirchen Aug 2012 #99
To you perhaps, but not so much to people who study such things Major Nikon Aug 2012 #104
I Agree, On the Road Aug 2012 #88
I believe it's the end of the first trimester Oilwellian Aug 2012 #106
So you are a Forced Birther intaglio Aug 2012 #92
Not to speak for someone else but, 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #95
I believe what the OP meant to say is hedgehog Aug 2012 #97
And just the other day Pat Robertson was claiming Ilsa Aug 2012 #102
They've discovered that and decided to be consistent treestar Aug 2012 #103
TAX DEDUCTION! An average woman is impregnated at least 6 times per year - $22,200! HopeHoops Aug 2012 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author marmar Aug 2012 #111
BINGO. That's why they need this mythology. DirkGently Aug 2012 #112
It's all about punishing "promiscuous" women Retrograde Aug 2012 #115
People who claim to be truly pro-life are hypcrites because avebury Aug 2012 #116
you are right Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #124
Pro-life results in the destruction of two or more lives to bring one fetus into the world liberal N proud Aug 2012 #126
If pro lifers were really pro life, mmonk Aug 2012 #127
Well said. YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #128
I believe what you suggest, is the position of some who identify with the so called "pro-life" mzmolly Aug 2012 #129
Consistency. Quantess Aug 2012 #135
Your just adorable Caretha Aug 2012 #137
+1000 Good point, thank you for your post, I've long been thinking the same thing progree Aug 2012 #138
Perfect post illustrating your point (the pro-life inconsistency - its a human life except when not) progree Aug 2012 #139
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