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In reply to the discussion: Bernie: 'My Opponents' Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates 'Regardless... [View all]George II
(67,782 posts)122. How can you possibly think that Sanders "is actually liked most by people of color and women?"
On what do you base that conclusion? The only general election evidence we have and he has is in a state that has less than 5% people of color, statistically impossible to draw a conclusion on how he is "liked" by people of color, much less "most".
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Bernie: 'My Opponents' Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates 'Regardless... [View all]
DonViejo
Jan 2019
OP
Bernie, 2018: "I had no idea hundreds of thousands of Americans, particularly African-Americans,
betsuni
Jan 2019
#36
The implication that female candidates say, "I am a woman, that's enough to vote for me"
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#209
I do not understand how he would think this would be a good thing to say if he is attempting to gain
UniteFightBack
Jan 2019
#10
We're all so hopelessly stupid that we can't tell qualified from unqualified candidates.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#67
He still thinks we voted for Obama because he was the charismatic cool black guy and Hillary
betsuni
Jan 2019
#91
And THIS is supposed to encourage women and minorities to take another look at him?
pnwmom
Jan 2019
#15
Everything I ever said and/or thought of him has stood the test of truth and time.
boston bean
Jan 2019
#16
I'm starting to think Sanders doesn't ... REALLY ... value diversity, Am I way off? tia
uponit7771
Jan 2019
#23
NOT ... well said, no one has the position Sanders said they have. That's a key element of a strawma
uponit7771
Jan 2019
#157
Strawman noted, Sanders proffered a fallacious argument against his "opponents" seeing NO ONE
uponit7771
Jan 2019
#155
Bernie is such an awesome candidate that a poster on DU has to explain what he meant to say
CreekDog
Jan 2019
#219
more than that. railing against "identity politics" by engaging in "identity politics"
still_one
Jan 2019
#38
I get the feeling from some people that they are not looking for the best candidate
Renew Deal
Jan 2019
#33
and that is true, except based on the OP's implication he is insulting those who are supporting
still_one
Jan 2019
#39
Which is why when political leaders speak they need to be careful so there is no
still_one
Jan 2019
#224
Exactly right, Cha. Sen. Sanders should identify exactly who has made the claims
spooky3
Jan 2019
#279
This is false on its face, none of his opponents want that. Sanders is needlessly proffering fallacy
uponit7771
Jan 2019
#47
The gop are notorious for using a similar argument to justify that undocumented people are voting
still_one
Jan 2019
#55
Where he is incorrect is his implication that a significant # of progressives choose candidates
pnwmom
Jan 2019
#248
First of all. Just ONE big "identity politics": Fox telling white ppl to hate minorities.
sharedvalues
Jan 2019
#65
To give him maximum charity I do think positions and issues are important...
D23MIURG23
Jan 2019
#73
He didn't seem to mind when the preferred identity was what he is...a white male.
Honeycombe8
Jan 2019
#75
I may be reading this wrong, but to me this sounds like that long-standing complaint:
Chemisse
Jan 2019
#76
It is a one-size-fits-all classic Marxist procrustean bed of a policy. While a raise would be nice
Hekate
Jan 2019
#145
Oh no...Sanders takes a position that he's never hidden, that actual policies matter...that issues
JCanete
Jan 2019
#87
If you don't see how deeply insulting Bernie's assumption is, then you never will.
yardwork
Jan 2019
#92
I don't trust you on that. The numbers don't bear it out. I trust that you believe it. nt
JCanete
Jan 2019
#102
How can you possibly think that Sanders "is actually liked most by people of color and women?"
George II
Jan 2019
#122
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/19/18148681/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-approval-rating. That's one.
JCanete
Jan 2019
#124
From the article: "These early polling results are of limited ultimate relevance"
George II
Jan 2019
#127
oh fuck George...please review the context of my post and then reply about who's making what claims.
JCanete
Jan 2019
#135
You made a statement, I disputed it, showing a disclaimer in YOUR article, asking...
George II
Jan 2019
#173
Talk like this is what made his delegates feel OK booing John Lewis at our last convention
GulfCoast66
Jan 2019
#111
When he said that tonight they would be nominating a woman, they yelled "She stole it" at Lewis.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#134
er...yeah, that's a whole lot of lumping together you've got going on there. I bet I could
JCanete
Jan 2019
#139
Conspiracy theories about John Lewis lying and Hillary stealing elections are nutty.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#140
when you agree on shit like Hillary Stealing the election and booing John Lewis that pretty much
JI7
Jan 2019
#141
Senator Sanders, did it ever dawn on you that the VOTERS want "yadda yadda"....
George II
Jan 2019
#112
"People of color aren't voting for people based solely on their gender or racial background. That..
Cha
Jan 2019
#164
Actually I think I agree. If Bernie was female or a minority I think he would be more accepted.
Joe941
Jan 2019
#179
Your exact words: "If Bernie was female or a minority I think he would be more accepted."
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#205
I see three years later Bernie is still following the same bankrupt strategy
Blue_Tires
Jan 2019
#191
Common wisdom on DU states that Bernie does not appeal to minorities. We will see.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2019
#206
Not really. On DU we have seen, for sure. In the real world not so much.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2019
#214
Because of the Mueller investigation, we know things now that were were not known then
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#217
So, it's your "feeling," but you expect it to carry the weight of fact in this discussion.
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#222
Diversity in representation leads to better public policies. If Bernie can't see that it's time
TeamPooka
Jan 2019
#246
I just heard Kamala Harris on Rachel Show say that her mother told her that if you seen something
MaryMagdaline
Jan 2019
#252
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou
spooky3
Jan 2019
#277
Typical. Claim everything's about policy while making it about everything except policy.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#284