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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
120. Oh, you miss understand my meaning.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:26 AM
Jan 2019

I agree with your post. But even in the north during the great migration while black Americans were given factory jobs they were paid less and given the shittiest jobs.

I readily admit that many if not most racist do not consider the economics of their beliefs. But let a black man do better than them and their racism goes into hyperdrive. That explains the reaction to President Obama. They still consider him illegitimate.

Because in their minds black men and women should never have more than any white man. Or woman.

Granted, being from the South where legally enforced racism was obviously about economics may cloud my judgment. But the largest racial massacres after Jim Crow like Tulsa, Ocoee and Rosewood were often set off because African Americans were gaining more wealth than some of their white neighbors.

Nuanced discussions like this is where communication is typed online comes up short. Were we sitting next to each other in a bar we would have no problem reaching consensus.

Have a nice evening.

I wish I could... ...cough cough....but I cant. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #1
I'm self-editing madly NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #41
The more he opens his mouth, the less you need to. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #46
I'll say it for you...foot in mouth disease. brush Jan 2019 #53
. Squinch Jan 2019 #2
K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #3
Huh. ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #4
tone deaf qazplm135 Jan 2019 #5
He's not a Democrat. we can do it Jan 2019 #190
This. n/t Kitchari Jan 2019 #232
WTELF? Cha Jan 2019 #6
wish I could answer, but all I got is ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #13
Rockabilly! Cha Jan 2019 #17
closest fit I could find Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #22
It's perfect.. you're right Cha Jan 2019 #28
Bernie, 2018: "I had no idea hundreds of thousands of Americans, particularly African-Americans, betsuni Jan 2019 #36
I know.. so much cluelessness. Cha Jan 2019 #49
I remember when Avenatti said that Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #50
And, he was doing so well.. Cha Jan 2019 #62
The implication that female candidates say, "I am a woman, that's enough to vote for me" ehrnst Jan 2019 #209
he learned NOTHING. Cha Jan 2019 #226
I appears that doesn't believe that he has anything to learn. ehrnst Jan 2019 #228
Wow. Tipperary Jan 2019 #7
Wut. betsuni Jan 2019 #8
Sick and tired of his point of view. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #9
I do not understand how he would think this would be a good thing to say if he is attempting to gain UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #10
I'm glad he did so we know Cha Jan 2019 #14
It's odd because the interview was last year before anyone declared. betsuni Jan 2019 #42
Thanks, I didn't see Cha Jan 2019 #56
We're all so hopelessly stupid that we can't tell qualified from unqualified candidates. betsuni Jan 2019 #67
This is his biggest Insult of all. Cha Jan 2019 #81
Too few people recognize how condescending Bernie is. yardwork Jan 2019 #88
He still thinks we voted for Obama because he was the charismatic cool black guy and Hillary betsuni Jan 2019 #91
his loss. Cha Jan 2019 #96
Exactly, that's it in a nutshell. radius777 Jan 2019 #235
You made me lol! sheshe2 Jan 2019 #90
... betsuni Jan 2019 #95
;) sheshe2 Jan 2019 #98
People who didn't vote for Bernie are "his opponents." yardwork Jan 2019 #71
That's a long time to be cranky. betsuni Jan 2019 #93
He's used to it. yardwork Jan 2019 #113
and people wonder why he can't make inroads with minority voters dsc Jan 2019 #11
Ugh. BlueStater Jan 2019 #12
And THIS is supposed to encourage women and minorities to take another look at him? pnwmom Jan 2019 #15
Everything I ever said and/or thought of him has stood the test of truth and time. boston bean Jan 2019 #16
Same here. LisaM Jan 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Jan 2019 #72
I've noticed that too. yardwork Jan 2019 #119
Same here. MrGrieves Jan 2019 #174
Geez, even going to public school and university in the Deep South, GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #18
Things like this all but guarantee that he'll remain in the Senate! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #19
And even that is an unfortunate state of affairs. calimary Jan 2019 #154
He should remain in the Senate. Cha Jan 2019 #234
... lapucelle Jan 2019 #20
This is Obama's face about Kamala-Jamaica but it fits here.. Cha Jan 2019 #32
Really, she and her non-African elitist forebearers wintered in Jamaica MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #257
Heh. betsuni Jan 2019 #37
I think he's sore because the other 2020 potential candidates have Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #21
I'm starting to think Sanders doesn't ... REALLY ... value diversity, Am I way off? tia uponit7771 Jan 2019 #23
Let's be real. He isn't all that used to it. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #24
He's the type that believes that good policy raises everyone Renew Deal Jan 2019 #34
Well he's not being straight up here.. Cha Jan 2019 #151
You know what else isn't true? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #192
Mahalo, Jackie! you're absolutely Cha Jan 2019 #225
so we'll just raise everyone up CreekDog Jan 2019 #218
Yes droidamus2 Jan 2019 #69
+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #74
NOT ... well said, no one has the position Sanders said they have. That's a key element of a strawma uponit7771 Jan 2019 #157
That's obvious....... Glamrock Jan 2019 #82
"..grudge against Bernie.. " strawman. BS is being called out Cha Jan 2019 #153
What he's saying.. is Not true Cha Jan 2019 #152
Strawman noted, Sanders proffered a fallacious argument against his "opponents" seeing NO ONE uponit7771 Jan 2019 #155
+1! Cha Jan 2019 #237
"He is just saying what they believe in" WeekiWater Jan 2019 #187
Bernie is such an awesome candidate that a poster on DU has to explain what he meant to say CreekDog Jan 2019 #219
Yeah.. too much of that. Cha Jan 2019 #242
Sanders sees everything from his white perch in Vermont Apollyonus Jan 2019 #266
+1, thinking he has to turn in full tax returns so he's not going to run uponit7771 Jan 2019 #274
So he's back to railing against "identity politics?" mcar Jan 2019 #25
more than that. railing against "identity politics" by engaging in "identity politics" still_one Jan 2019 #38
It was always so mcar Jan 2019 #45
Grandpa needs a nap. nycbos Jan 2019 #26
He needs more than that. Apollyonus Jan 2019 #267
Bernie go home to Vermont and RETIRE! redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #27
wow, that's pretty fucked up right there 0rganism Jan 2019 #30
Yikes... Mike Nelson Jan 2019 #31
I get the feeling from some people that they are not looking for the best candidate Renew Deal Jan 2019 #33
Sandewrs is correct. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #35
and that is true, except based on the OP's implication he is insulting those who are supporting still_one Jan 2019 #39
Yes! And, it's not really correct because No One Cha Jan 2019 #43
yes, it is a strawman argument still_one Jan 2019 #54
That is one way to interpret it. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #223
Which is why when political leaders speak they need to be careful so there is no still_one Jan 2019 #224
Said NO ONE EVER. Cha Jan 2019 #40
Exactly right, Cha. Sen. Sanders should identify exactly who has made the claims spooky3 Jan 2019 #279
Yeah, why you so vague, BS? Tell us exactly Cha Jan 2019 #280
The more he talks, the clearer the picture becomes. spooky3 Jan 2019 #281
This is false on its face, none of his opponents want that. Sanders is needlessly proffering fallacy uponit7771 Jan 2019 #47
The gop have been repeating his frame. Thanks bern! Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #51
The gop are notorious for using a similar argument to justify that undocumented people are voting still_one Jan 2019 #55
Because of course it is.. It's false and insulting. Cha Jan 2019 #57
Well, it's not needless. Bernie needs to make this argument. yardwork Jan 2019 #66
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2019 #158
Who ever said that? mcar Jan 2019 #48
Who has ever said that? It's a straw man fallacy. yardwork Jan 2019 #63
Where he is incorrect is his implication that a significant # of progressives choose candidates pnwmom Jan 2019 #248
I agree with your excellent point. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #250
.... Apollyonus Jan 2019 #268
What opponents? NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #44
Unsurprising. Once an asshole, always... NNadir Jan 2019 #52
lol n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #269
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Jan 2019 #58
Same old, same old. Didn't really expect him to evolve now, did you? nt Fla Dem Jan 2019 #59
Bernie. LOL...nt SidDithers Jan 2019 #60
Deeply offensive. yardwork Jan 2019 #61
Bernie just needs to stay in Senate. Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #64
First of all. Just ONE big "identity politics": Fox telling white ppl to hate minorities. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #65
His delegates booed John Lewis on the stage at our last convention. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #68
I was there Gothmog Jan 2019 #175
Every member of the Democratic Party needs to hear this anecdote. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #185
There were some really mad Clinton workers at the convention Gothmog Jan 2019 #212
I am a private facebook page for Clinton National delegates Gothmog Jan 2019 #238
That was disgusting Apollyonus Jan 2019 #271
Yep. Check out the ongoing thread about math showing how BS could win. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #272
And welcome to DU. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #273
Yes of course nini Jan 2019 #70
To give him maximum charity I do think positions and issues are important... D23MIURG23 Jan 2019 #73
Don't forget the most important. She's a member of the Democratic Party. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #104
There is that. calimary Jan 2019 #156
Yes, but she's a Wall Street tool MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #258
He didn't seem to mind when the preferred identity was what he is...a white male. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #75
I may be reading this wrong, but to me this sounds like that long-standing complaint: Chemisse Jan 2019 #76
Translation: RandySF Jan 2019 #77
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #78
lol Apollyonus Jan 2019 #84
+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #107
Old guy yelling at clouds. MontanaMama Jan 2019 #79
Bernie... (heavy sigh) NotHardly Jan 2019 #80
Or even just listen. He seems to be most at home behind a podium ehrnst Jan 2019 #208
Or not talk and not run .. ever again n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #270
In Sanders' world Apollyonus Jan 2019 #83
Your missing the largest Irony... GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #106
Sir, my post was clear. Twisting it won't help. Apollyonus Jan 2019 #110
Oh, you miss understand my meaning. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #120
No worries Apollyonus Jan 2019 #121
Agreed. Born in Detroit, raised in Georgia MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #259
It is a one-size-fits-all classic Marxist procrustean bed of a policy. While a raise would be nice Hekate Jan 2019 #145
+1 Woot woot! nt Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #168
+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #172
It's going to be a fun primary season, as always IronLionZion Jan 2019 #85
So Democrats are his "enemies" now? Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #86
Not just now. we can do it Jan 2019 #197
Oh no...Sanders takes a position that he's never hidden, that actual policies matter...that issues JCanete Jan 2019 #87
If you don't see how deeply insulting Bernie's assumption is, then you never will. yardwork Jan 2019 #92
Well some people don't think we can tell the difference. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #99
I don't trust you on that. The numbers don't bear it out. I trust that you believe it. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #102
I trust her.. she knows what she's talking about. Cha Jan 2019 #150
Sort of like when a polician you like gets fact checked.... ehrnst Jan 2019 #182
"promoting the same old shit underneath diverse packaging" betsuni Jan 2019 #94
Anything and anyone who isn't Bernie. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #101
You got one thing right. He's never hidden his position on race and gender. kcr Jan 2019 #103
pointing what out exactly? nt JCanete Jan 2019 #105
His words. betsuni Jan 2019 #144
How can you possibly think that Sanders "is actually liked most by people of color and women?" George II Jan 2019 #122
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/19/18148681/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-approval-rating. That's one. JCanete Jan 2019 #124
From the article: "These early polling results are of limited ultimate relevance" George II Jan 2019 #127
Do you? nt JCanete Jan 2019 #129
No, I'm not the one making the claim, you are. George II Jan 2019 #130
oh fuck George...please review the context of my post and then reply about who's making what claims. JCanete Jan 2019 #135
You made a statement, I disputed it, showing a disclaimer in YOUR article, asking... George II Jan 2019 #173
That fallacy is called "prove a negative." ehrnst Jan 2019 #186
I'll take that as a NO. Cha Jan 2019 #149
BS is falsely accusing Dems of "want"ing something that's entirely untrue Cha Jan 2019 #133
I read it to mean "only Bernie stands for the correct things" comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #261
Which of course is Cha Jan 2019 #262
Indeed it is. comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #263
"same old shit underneath diverse packaging" ehrnst Jan 2019 #178
Maybe we should all go in together MontanaMama Jan 2019 #89
Oh Ouch, Burn! Cha Jan 2019 #97
Lol!! MontanaMama Jan 2019 #100
.. George II Jan 2019 #131
LOL! I'm in! calimary Jan 2019 #159
WHY are his "opponents" ALWAYS DEMOCRATS and never the GOP?! Hekate Jan 2019 #108
Indeed. Vermont isn't exactly a hotbed of diversity. ehrnst Jan 2019 #180
I think Bernie has lost it. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #109
Talk like this is what made his delegates feel OK booing John Lewis at our last convention GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #111
+1000 yardwork Jan 2019 #116
Yes. Unforgivable. honest.abe Jan 2019 #125
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #128
When he said that tonight they would be nominating a woman, they yelled "She stole it" at Lewis. betsuni Jan 2019 #134
okay, meaning what to you? nt JCanete Jan 2019 #137
That they are very rude and noisy conspiracy theory nuts. betsuni Jan 2019 #138
er...yeah, that's a whole lot of lumping together you've got going on there. I bet I could JCanete Jan 2019 #139
Conspiracy theories about John Lewis lying and Hillary stealing elections are nutty. betsuni Jan 2019 #140
when you agree on shit like Hillary Stealing the election and booing John Lewis that pretty much JI7 Jan 2019 #141
+1! Cha Jan 2019 #147
agreed Gothmog Jan 2019 #213
#Whataboutism!! Not Working. Cha Jan 2019 #146
DEFINITELY not working. calimary Jan 2019 #161
Congressman John Lewis is a national treasure Gothmog Jan 2019 #176
"that's a whole lot of lumping together you've got going on there." WeekiWater Jan 2019 #188
Edited herding cats Jan 2019 #142
Thanks for that. Cha Jan 2019 #233
Yes, it is absolutely unforivable. Cha Jan 2019 #132
That was a colossal disgrace. A genuine sin. SHAME on them. calimary Jan 2019 #160
+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #165
Senator Sanders, did it ever dawn on you that the VOTERS want "yadda yadda".... George II Jan 2019 #112
To be fair, most voters are his opponents. yardwork Jan 2019 #115
Bazinga! George II Jan 2019 #117
Grin. yardwork Jan 2019 #118
i echo what everyone else has said in this thread. no thank you bernie. trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #114
Stupid comment. No real Democrat thinks like that. honest.abe Jan 2019 #123
But TheFarseer Jan 2019 #126
BS is falsely accusing Dems of "want"ing something that's entirely untrue Cha Jan 2019 #136
Yep. The blind spot is still there blind as ever. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #143
Excellent post, Caliman73. calimary Jan 2019 #162
Excellent and comprehensive. Thank you. nt Hekate Jan 2019 #163
"People of color aren't voting for people based solely on their gender or racial background. That.. Cha Jan 2019 #164
Bernie always has to have some excuse for why he didn't win. With him Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #166
Aloha, Kahuna! Cha Jan 2019 #167
Hey Baby! You're the only one who seems to remember me... Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #169
And that thinking on Bernie's part defines white male privilege. yardwork Jan 2019 #171
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #184
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2019 #275
ANYONE who labels Democrats as their "opponents" can just Fuck Off Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #148
Exactly we can do it Jan 2019 #199
white skin is such a burden to carry!! boston bean Jan 2019 #170
Not helping, Bernie. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #177
Actually I think I agree. If Bernie was female or a minority I think he would be more accepted. Joe941 Jan 2019 #179
Your contribution is duly noted Hekate Jan 2019 #181
Ah yes. White men are being oppressed more than anyone, so I hear. ehrnst Jan 2019 #183
Racism (and other isms) in all forms has to stop - it tears our country apart. Joe941 Jan 2019 #198
My response was concerning your statements to the effect ehrnst Jan 2019 #204
Exactly, ehrnst.. Thank You! Cha Jan 2019 #229
Exhausting explaining the obvious, isn't it? ehrnst Jan 2019 #230
Don't I know it! Cha Jan 2019 #231
Yeah, your average joe over at JPR would be all over this. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #253
Yeah, women and minorities going around yelling at walls are a big hit. NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #193
Wow. A beautiful demonstration of white male privilege. athena Jan 2019 #195
+1000 EffieBlack Jan 2019 #201
Beautifully stated! athena Jan 2019 #203
Please leave, Bernie. Paladin Jan 2019 #210
Yes. Being a white man in America is such a burden EffieBlack Jan 2019 #196
I didn't say that. Please don't put words in my mouth. Joe941 Jan 2019 #200
That's exactly what you said. EffieBlack Jan 2019 #202
I said nothing about life in America. Joe941 Jan 2019 #207
Your exact words: "If Bernie was female or a minority I think he would be more accepted." ehrnst Jan 2019 #205
We DO.. BS is Wrong. Cha Jan 2019 #227
That is Straight UP Bulloney. Cha Jan 2019 #236
By whom?!?!?! uponit7771 Jan 2019 #276
Sick and tired of this man🤮 we can do it Jan 2019 #189
I see three years later Bernie is still following the same bankrupt strategy Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #191
His privilege is showing. NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #194
Common wisdom on DU states that Bernie does not appeal to minorities. We will see. redgreenandblue Jan 2019 #206
"We will see"? EffieBlack Jan 2019 #211
Not really. On DU we have seen, for sure. In the real world not so much. redgreenandblue Jan 2019 #214
Ok EffieBlack Jan 2019 #215
This gives me some hope for our future. jalan48 Jan 2019 #216
Because of the Mueller investigation, we know things now that were were not known then ehrnst Jan 2019 #217
You "feel" that he's popular with minority demographics ehrnst Jan 2019 #220
Good statistics are pretty hard to come by currently. redgreenandblue Jan 2019 #221
So, it's your "feeling," but you expect it to carry the weight of fact in this discussion. ehrnst Jan 2019 #222
It's on Twitter, too.. that BS does not Cha Jan 2019 #239
The Blue Wave certainly surprised him. betsuni Jan 2019 #240
Sure did. Curious what are his Cha Jan 2019 #241
That's for sure! betsuni Jan 2019 #244
The Blue Wave didn't validate his claims that the Democratic Party ehrnst Jan 2019 #247
He's hard of listening. betsuni Jan 2019 #249
Just read this. Great response. I will remember it. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #283
kick Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #243
No, Senator Sanders peggysue2 Jan 2019 #245
Diversity in representation leads to better public policies. If Bernie can't see that it's time TeamPooka Jan 2019 #246
Sanders is providing ample fuel for bothsiderists. stopbush Jan 2019 #251
I just heard Kamala Harris on Rachel Show say that her mother told her that if you seen something MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #252
Of course they are. Thank you for Cha Jan 2019 #255
Welcome, Cha MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #256
Aloha, Mary! Cha Jan 2019 #260
... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #254
.. Cha Jan 2019 #264
... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #265
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou spooky3 Jan 2019 #277
It's being carried along on Twitter RandySF Jan 2019 #278
yeah, I don't need him explained.. Cha Jan 2019 #282
Typical. Claim everything's about policy while making it about everything except policy. betsuni Jan 2019 #284
I agree Catch2.2 Mar 2019 #285
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2019 #286
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