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Demsrule86

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66. The majority of Americans do not agree with this...urgency-certainly not enough to take massive
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

amounts of economic pain, and they vote. So regardless of what we think, and I believe it to be urgent, we have to proceed carefully...and this is not the issue to run on. The GOP will beat us up on this...scare people to death.

Great article by Bill McKibben; thanks for posting. nt femmedem Jan 2019 #1
Check out Obama's and the UN's Green New Deal. Hortensis Jan 2019 #40
Indeed we do. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #77
Agreed. Some are going on like green energy proposals had never been thought of... brush Jan 2019 #88
We need only look back to WWII DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #2
"Being Green" EffieBlack Jan 2019 #54
I love what you said bdamomma Jan 2019 #55
+ infinity! sheshe2 Jan 2019 #83
AOC's push for GND is exactly what the USA needs...any 2020 candidate who doesnt support it is DOA!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #3
Wishful thinking. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #4
Are you opposed to a GND? nt Palisade Jan 2019 #5
I don't think anyone here really knows what the "GND" (?) really is. I can't seem to find.... George II Jan 2019 #8
Here's the book on it... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #9
That's not a plan, that's a wish list with few or no specifics on how to accomplish them. George II Jan 2019 #11
Every plan starts with an outline...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #12
I realize that, I wrote engineering and marketing plans for about 40 years. George II Jan 2019 #14
I do agree with you there...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #15
Thanks. George II Jan 2019 #18
I am opposed to attempting this now and disrupting our economy...absolutely opposed. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #31
Yeah, let's wait 20 or 30 years - we'll be FINE . . . hatrack Jan 2019 #41
Let's win the presidency and the Senate and start but not by destroying the economy which Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #48
This IS how it's going to be, whether we like it or not hatrack Jan 2019 #51
+1000 The_jackalope Jan 2019 #86
You do know none of this is possible until we get control of the WH and Senate... brush Jan 2019 #89
We begin and work towards our goals with as little disruption as possible or it could be 20 or30 Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #63
While it is possible to have... tonedevil Jan 2019 #53
And we could end up with neither if we are not careful. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #65
Seriously there is no tomorrow on this issue. Nor do we change people's minds and get them to JCanete Jan 2019 #62
People support taking on climate change...but it is not strong support...if we cause massive Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #64
You said it... it's now or NEVER!! New Green Deal or NO DEAL!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #87
+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #39
+ a brazillion shanny Jan 2019 #76
even 2030 is too late in my opinion scarytomcat Jan 2019 #6
Do you have any idea what that would do to the economy? If you screw up green deal plans by Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #16
screw up the economy? scarytomcat Jan 2019 #19
You said it!! We need GND now... glad to see AOC all over this leading the charge!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #21
How will it stimulate the economy...most of the green stuff needed is made in China. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #34
We could manufacture and install scarytomcat Jan 2019 #44
Do you understand how difficult what you say would be and what it would cost? We are not Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #46
it is do or die scarytomcat Jan 2019 #56
We only have one shot...if we rush in willy nilly without a plan...tell people to tighten their Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #61
The majority of Americans do not agree with this...urgency-certainly not enough to take massive Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #66
Your writings in this thread are some of the wisest I've ever seen on this site Alea Jan 2019 #69
Thank you. You are very kind. (Blushing) Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #92
OFFS. progressoid Jan 2019 #58
it is hard to tell sometimes shanny Jan 2019 #79
We don't have to destroy the economy or implement regressive taxes. hunter Jan 2019 #57
No way, not going to be crammed into some urban arcology Amishman Jan 2019 #70
I think that is cool... tonedevil Jan 2019 #71
My wife and I live in a high density suburb. hunter Jan 2019 #73
+100 Duppers Jan 2019 #26
What is the plan? George II Jan 2019 #7
I haven't seen one. Apollyonus Jan 2019 #43
I lived in Strasbourg France for about 4 weeks 7 years ago. lark Jan 2019 #10
I would too...but let's not forget the French are rioting because of conditions...Europe is not a Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #17
No one is suggesting Europe is a "paradise," SMC22307 Jan 2019 #20
Mostly because fuel taxes make it very costly to drive MichMan Jan 2019 #23
That will hurt the little guy. I'd rather we raise the top marignal tax rates... SMC22307 Jan 2019 #25
How would that reduce the use of fossil fuels ? MichMan Jan 2019 #32
By providing viable alternatives. SMC22307 Jan 2019 #45
The federal gas tax in the US is 17 cents per gallon and hasn't gone up in 25:years EffieBlack Jan 2019 #29
Increasing gas tax by 15 cents will make people buy electric? MichMan Jan 2019 #35
At what cost? What about the ghettos ouside of Paris? Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #28
What about them? What, specifically, are you asking? (n/t) SMC22307 Jan 2019 #49
French take to the streets & riot easily, that doesn't happen here. lark Jan 2019 #24
Ah...but many can't afford good food right now, Muslims live in ghettos outside of Paris-many have Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #27
I certainly hope not. lark Jan 2019 #37
It is very likely that a NAZI Le Pen will win the next election. Macron is in big trouble and gas Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #50
"These riots really confuse me because few French drive?? " EX500rider Jan 2019 #80
It began with people who drive for a living...people hail cabs and such. But there has been Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #90
It is simplistic if not disingenuous to say they are rioting "because of conditions." shanny Jan 2019 #82
It is the truth...they are being asked to assume the cost of climate change policy while the rich Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #91
Hopefully California's actions and New York's Climate and Community Protection Act Autumn Jan 2019 #13
How do you force consumers to stop using fossil fuels and buy electric vehicles ? MichMan Jan 2019 #22
Any party that supported what you wrote in your post would be sent to the political Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #30
How would you propose substantially reducing fossil fuel usage ? MichMan Jan 2019 #36
The electric grid is the issue. David__77 Jan 2019 #38
I hope a package of policy including jobs guarantees is introduced. David__77 Jan 2019 #33
"Green New Deal" is not new Apollyonus Jan 2019 #42
He's no longer in office, but AOC is. SMC22307 Jan 2019 #47
She is not in "power" Apollyonus Jan 2019 #52
Good for her Raine Jan 2019 #59
Democrats in office have cared a proposed loyalsister Jan 2019 #68
Euphemia. betsuni Jan 2019 #60
Has this been assigned a House Bill number yet? fescuerescue Jan 2019 #67
Taking up the torch of Al Gore, thanks Hekate Jan 2019 #72
It's a start but until there's a snowball's chance Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #74
Putting aside all the politics, when you look at the plan itself Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #81
I definitely agree, go for it Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #84
This stuff's been on the wonk roadmap for decades. joshcryer Jan 2019 #85
She isn't wrong. Joe941 Jan 2019 #75
Gonna be hard for planes zipplewrath Jan 2019 #78
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