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Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
52. Yes, we absolutely are.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:27 AM
Jan 2019

The problem is, we have not been able to fight back because our enemy successfully compromised our highest power structures of government.

Russia has perpetrated near identical sophisticated acts of cyber warfare mixed with infiltration/sabotage politics on at least one other country; bullets may not be flying, but the aggressive action and intent to inflict harm is as real as tomorrow's sunrise. For the last two years, Trump has been gleefully disemboweling the federal government with the same zeal a child psychotic shows ripping wings from a fly.

And make no mistake, once this traitorous animal and enemy of all life has been neutralized, the necessity will be unavoidable where we must close with our enemy, be it via the net, or on a 20th century style battlefield. Something must be done, we absolutely cannot allow this aggression to stand unchallenged. Russia forced this path onto us, they are responsible for whatever terrible outcome both countries must now face.

Distilled to raw substance:

Vladimir Putin executed a masterful cascade of highly sophisticated, deliberate steps to inflict a maximum of damage for a minimum of investment (necessary, because they were broke, crushed under Obama's powerful sanctions), and succeeded beyond his wildest expectations. Putin is not a complex man to read, review the Helsinki footage, the recent international meeting where he high fived the Saudi murderer of the WSJ journal; the man is on a visible high, he is elated, gloating, smirking, casting a shadow that envelopes Trump at all times like an anaconda, Trump literally physically withered at his side.

This happened. Many of us were aware it was taking place in real time and have since driven ourselves half mad in the Cassandra role we are all forced to play out, helplessly while the only viable challenge to Trump stands down and steps aside as he ravages everything in sight, destroying everything his gaze falls upon.

This happened. It's still happening.

The only thing for it now is the inevitable reckoning, and I pray to God for my children's sake that this man faces a firing squad alongside everyone in his cabal and is pierced by bullets until dead, because if we do not steel our nerves and render a just and terrible retribution upon Donald Trump and show all who see the just rewards for American treachery, then all hope is lost.

Trump will be Charged with Treason. [View all] berni_mccoy Jan 2019 OP
And if convicted, he should face the death penalty... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #1
Agree The Blue Flower Jan 2019 #4
True that... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #6
The shameless gall and deception. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #55
Including my USCG son's young family. OMGWTF Jan 2019 #53
OMG could you IMAGINE???? !!!!!!!!!!!!! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #24
His whole family should be. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #28
There should be NO TALK of pardoning him if he steps down. Liberty Belle Jan 2019 #34
Except he hasn't committed treason. Codeine Jan 2019 #67
If it's espionage, same thing. No pardon. These are betrayals of America, Liberty Belle Jan 2019 #69
Many people -- Dems too -- say he should just agree to resign and that's enough. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #51
1000 times....uh..HAIL NO. This was painful. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #60
disagree vlyons Jan 2019 #57
Sure as hell don't want to see interviews of him on tv. Ilsa Jan 2019 #65
But unfortunately he will face a pardon instead. Kablooie Jan 2019 #61
I agree duforsure Jan 2019 #62
We are not at war. dem4decades Jan 2019 #2
We were under attack by a hostile foreign government ... cannabis_flower Jan 2019 #8
Exactly and we have been under attack by Russia long before Trump came down the escalator. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #32
If we're in a state of war with Russia onenote Jan 2019 #59
The US Code defines "enemy" quite specifically Codeine Jan 2019 #68
The attack on our election could be called an act of war. Zoonart Jan 2019 #10
No it could not. Codeine Jan 2019 #13
Please provide a cite that deals with the commander-in-chief ... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #31
A "declared war" (as in shooting) is obsolete imo. Won't ever happen again. triron Jan 2019 #35
Not Treason per Constitution. Could be sedition grantcart Jan 2019 #40
It is an act of war if Congress says it is Takket Jan 2019 #41
Yup, treason... there's no doubt! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #54
See below: RHMerriman Jan 2019 #11
Thank you. triron Jan 2019 #15
Sure ... one issue to consider in this is that the situation is literally RHMerriman Jan 2019 #19
Exactly blue-wave Jan 2019 #47
AID and COMFORT MFM008 Jan 2019 #37
Yes, we absolutely are. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #52
ok bdamomma Jan 2019 #3
No, he won't. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #5
Individual-1 shot our country on 5th Avenue and got away with it. #ImpeachTheMF ffr Jan 2019 #7
This should be an OP, ffr. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #14
When Sugar Daddy's sighted... czarjak Jan 2019 #48
Death penalty would be too quick MLAA Jan 2019 #9
WHO will charge him? WHO will prosecute? chimpymustgo Jan 2019 #16
Absolute worst case....NY State will charge him if there are no federal charges. MLAA Jan 2019 #22
A state can't charge someone with treason... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #23
No, of course they can't. They will charge him for all his business crimes ie money laundering etc MLAA Jan 2019 #25
Waiting until a traitor is out of office is a dangerous way to go for the country. triron Jan 2019 #30
I'm thinking that even removing him from office runs the risk of civil war... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #26
Nah... even MAGAts have to pay their cable bills and get upset when their debit cards expire. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jan 2019 #50
Question is, can he be convicted of treason? Mueller better come up with something bigger than Hoyt Jan 2019 #12
See post #11 for a possible answer. triron Jan 2019 #17
But, who is going to convict him of that? Not the Senate and not likely any jury. Hoyt Jan 2019 #21
That's what he's been counting on starphlo Jan 2019 #33
Putin owns trump Gothmog Jan 2019 #18
Treasonous SOB nmgaucho Jan 2019 #20
Espionage, I think, rather than treason, because legally treason requires a declared war. nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #27
Yes, sadly I agree. watoos Jan 2019 #45
My dream looks like this ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #29
goodone guss Jan 2019 #56
When that doesn't happen what will you say? former9thward Jan 2019 #36
Almost certainly not: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war struggle4progress Jan 2019 #38
Your conclusion does not logically follow. And it is contrary to the evidence. triron Jan 2019 #39
Exactly blue-wave Jan 2019 #49
Impeach AND Indict! B Stieg Jan 2019 #42
Dream on KentuckyWoman Jan 2019 #43
He's not a legitimate President, otherwise I'd agree. halobeam Jan 2019 #64
The charges may not be "Treason" but Trump will be forced to resign, but Stuart G Jan 2019 #44
Do what they did to Manafort and Cohen, watoos Jan 2019 #46
For reasons that have been explained here umpteen times, you are simply, unequivocally wrong. onenote Jan 2019 #58
Endlessly explaining this is like living out Codeine Jan 2019 #66
I hope so malaise Jan 2019 #63
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