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karynnj

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81. Sanders is a child of immigrants too - and he supported his town and the county it is in being

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:17 AM

Jan 2019

refugee resettlement areas.

I hope that he opts not to run, but this article is an intentional distortion of positions he has taken all his life. If you did not like it when comments out of context has been used against people like HRC, Biden etc, you should have a problem with this.

There are issues - like his extremely ideological rejection of trade treaties - that can be accurately stated and rejected. Here though a look at his actual record and the breath of his comments on immigrants - he is not in the Trump camp.

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Newsweek: "Bernie Sanders on Immigrants: Silly, Tribal and Economically Illiterate" [View all] TomCADem Jan 2019 OP

Open borders is a right wing canard. No sentient person supports it. It would wreak havoc. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #1

What is the difference between what Bernie said and what Trump said a day ago? TomCADem Jan 2019 #4

In his heart Bernie is anti-immigration. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #5

What is his problem with minorities? kstewart33 Jan 2019 #124

Bernie's use of the term "nation-state" is a red flag to me. yardwork Jan 2019 #27

Bernie most certainly supports brexit AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #39

OMG. I didn't realize that. He is closely aligned with Putin, in that case. yardwork Jan 2019 #44

I dont think so AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #57

Not possible because Russia's main source of income is oil exports at140 Jan 2019 #101

But Bernie supported the EB-5 program at the Jay Peak ski resort in Vermont. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #127

Sanders will be vetted, and vetted thoroughly as long as he floats a 2020 run. ehrnst Jan 2019 #2

Bernie Sanders does GWC58 Jan 2019 #32

Chuckles Says He'll be Out Of The Race By August Me. Jan 2019 #53

The hue and cry will go up on Twitter... ehrnst Jan 2019 #63

That will be good. It's unclear to me if he's actually ready for such scrutiny. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #65

In a way, it's good that he's nearing the end of his career. ehrnst Jan 2019 #67

I'm sure his current wife, Jane, will be glad to be out of the spotlight too. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #69

She told him she didn't want him to run when he asked her what she thought. ehrnst Jan 2019 #70

She also doesn't want any more light on her tenure as President of a College that went bankrupt. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #83

That is a rather sticky and embarrassing situation. So there's that, and her bookkeeping skills.. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #96

No Spotlight, No Cash Me. Jan 2019 #103

Jay Peak. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #129

Interesting. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #130

There are lots of questionable votes in his voting record that can't be explained away emulatorloo Jan 2019 #104

But that's different... ehrnst Jan 2019 #105

I hadn't seen this before mcar Jan 2019 #3

But wait... there's more. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #66

All candidates need to be realistically vetted this time mcar Jan 2019 #122

And spouses in the public eye are fair game too. I have... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #123

I agree mcar Jan 2019 #125

Daniel Bier melman Jan 2019 #6

Vox - Bernie Sanders's fear of immigrant labor is ugly -- and wrongheaded TomCADem Jan 2019 #9

So why didn't you just quote the original interview melman Jan 2019 #10

Washington Examiner - "Bernie Sanders schools Vox on immigration" TomCADem Jan 2019 #14

Byron York? melman Jan 2019 #18

You have a problem with a conservative praising Bernie Sanders? Aren't you one of the people... George II Jan 2019 #73

I bet Trump fears Sanders because as you said, at140 Jan 2019 #102

Do you have a coherent defense of why Senator Sanders helped kill immigration reform in 2007? emulatorloo Jan 2019 #108

There will be many of his votes that will be called out in the course of a campaign.... George II Jan 2019 #112

What? melman Jan 2019 #118

ON EDIT: Yes I did do that, I am ashamed and I apologize emulatorloo Jan 2019 #119

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2019 #21

It appears duers now subscribe to the Jack Welch school of labor policy. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #16

Or, Patrick Buchanan's Opposition to Immigration Apparently TomCADem Jan 2019 #19

Is That the Same As Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh? TomCADem Jan 2019 #23

Now you are defending Jack Welch? He's the lowest scum of the low. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #33

Ah, I get it. You are using a strawman. TomCADem Jan 2019 #38

You accuse others of employing a straw man melman Jan 2019 #46

Sigh. Post No. 16 by Hassin Bin Sober... TomCADem Jan 2019 #48

Confused? melman Jan 2019 #50

someone's advocating building a wall? fishwax Jan 2019 #58

+1000. ehrnst Jan 2019 #64

OMG look! Jeff Weaver 'subscribes" to the "FoxNews school of political theory" ehrnst Jan 2019 #100

OP points out an area where libertarians and liberals are aligned. MarvinGardens Jan 2019 #40

Oh goodness... disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #88

A related article the explains Sanders position back the with a little more detail CentralMass Jan 2019 #7

Maybe I've gone blind Can you highlight the words Silly, Tribal and Economically Illiterate Autumn Jan 2019 #8

Here you go. Bernie and Trump side by side. What is the difference? TomCADem Jan 2019 #11

"Bernie Sanders on Immigrants: Silly, Tribal and Economically Illiterate" Autumn Jan 2019 #12

Wow. You did not notice the tribalism in what both Trump and Bernie said? TomCADem Jan 2019 #15

I noticed Libertarian bullshit and you pushing RW words that were never said by Bernie to Autumn Jan 2019 #17

In Both Bernie and Trump's Statements... TomCADem Jan 2019 #22

I'll be waiting till the end of time for you to prove what you and a libertarian hack are trying to Autumn Jan 2019 #24

Okay, here is a video of Bernie Sanders with Lou Dobbs Complaining About Amnesty TomCADem Jan 2019 #35

You posted a Libratian RW hacks bullshit lies just to smear Bernie. Autumn Jan 2019 #37

So far in this thread melman Jan 2019 #41

Why Not Cut to the Chase? Do you agree with Trump/Bernie on Immigration TomCADem Jan 2019 #45

Well said! Thank you lunamagica Jan 2019 #62

Just amazing. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #51

I Can't Help That Bernie Did an Interview With Lou Dobbs TomCADem Jan 2019 #42

Aren't you more concerned that Sanders is talking to, and agreeing with, Lou Dobbs? LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #52

Good question. John Fante Jan 2019 #56

I don't care that he's on Fox News. That's squat to me, I don't watch those clip and I have Fox Autumn Jan 2019 #74

But posting any quote from someone that was reported on FOX and Friend or other RW source ehrnst Jan 2019 #75

So, you refuse to listen to what Sanders said because of where he said it. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #77

I know what Sanders stand on immigrants is. I don't have to listen to an interview on Fox Autumn Jan 2019 #80

Except that's not what he said before. But, if you won't listen to his own words, oh well. /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #84

Are people not allowed to change? TCJ70 Jan 2019 #85

Sure, but you have to listen to what they said, and evaluate their sincerity based on their LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #87

That's not what he said before? It's a sad person who never changes. Autumn Jan 2019 #86

Glad you think it's funny /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #89

those words aren't attributed to Sanders; rather it's the (libertarian) author's assessment of him fishwax Jan 2019 #92

When I got to this point Autumn Jan 2019 #94

You remind me of my brother. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #131

Really? You remind me of someone too. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #135

Jeff Weaver has been on FoxNews more than once, and on Tucker Carlson's show ehrnst Jan 2019 #68

Well whadda ya know! George II Jan 2019 #76

+++++, thanks for pointing out the obvious similarities. nt R B Garr Jan 2019 #99

the difference is in where their expressed concerns about working class americans leads policy-wise fishwax Jan 2019 #55

Thank you. That Was Cogent and Responsive. Let Me Respond TomCADem Jan 2019 #59

I think he's always been pretty mainstream democratic when it comes to immigration fishwax Jan 2019 #60

Sanders is a child of immigrants too - and he supported his town and the county it is in being karynnj Jan 2019 #81

It's an attack editorial with an attack headline JackRiddler Jan 2019 #120

It's a trashy thing to do and very libertarian . Autumn Jan 2019 #121

KICK for Sunlight! Cha Jan 2019 #13

Why are you posting articles advocating for the abolition of the minimum wage? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #20

It does sound like a right-wing source. David__77 Jan 2019 #26

You mean like Jeff Weaver "advocates" watching FoxNews? ehrnst Jan 2019 #111

Why post this libertarian jagoff's musings here? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #25

Time - Why Conservatives Praise Bernie Sanders on Immigration TomCADem Jan 2019 #29

It doesn't matter if it's a legit source Hassin.It's anti-Bernie and that's all that counts. Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #126

The age old ideological horseshoe - far right and far left almost coincide. George II Jan 2019 #28

What's up with that sig quote? melman Jan 2019 #36

So, quoting a politician's own words is "mocking"? Wow. Who knew? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #72

. melman Jan 2019 #116

Two things can be simultaneously true DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #30

Newsweek is a rightwing source? TomCADem Jan 2019 #31

The author is DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #34

this article isn't originally from Newsweek. It's from a libertarian site fishwax Jan 2019 #49

Thank you for this post. MarvinGardens Jan 2019 #43

I mean, he was responding to a question that was very literally about open borders fishwax Jan 2019 #47

Read up on CATO man, Daniel Bier, "The sceptical libertarian" rgbecker Jan 2019 #54

Disturbing, but not surprising. Sanders timing for his "change or heart" about immigration was just lunamagica Jan 2019 #61

Just a hit piece on Bernie because... Joe941 Jan 2019 #71

Weather Vane? NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #78

Actions mean something - Chittenden County (including Burlington) became a refugee resettlement karynnj Jan 2019 #79

Ahem... Fix The Stupid Jan 2019 #82

No proof Bernie said that Yosemito Jan 2019 #90

the headline is actually describing Bernie Sanders, not purporting to quote him fishwax Jan 2019 #91

You are correct. You have excellent reading and comprehension skills. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #98

Daniel Bier? G_j Jan 2019 #93

Bier is the executive editor of "The Skeptical Libertarian" Yosemito Jan 2019 #95

indeed nt G_j Jan 2019 #97

Any and every opportunity to smear Bernie must be embraced. mac56 Jan 2019 #106

See also: HRC and Nancy Pelosi. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #107

yeah, it's pretty ridiculous in either case fishwax Jan 2019 #113

Fact of life: Senator Sanders will be vetting this time out. Best to prepare a coherent defense emulatorloo Jan 2019 #110

best prepare better smears than this shitshow of a piece. I mean, props where its due though...that JCanete Jan 2019 #114

You'll note in my post that I said that source sounds questionable emulatorloo Jan 2019 #117

Fair enough, thanks. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #134

visa programs that give companies the power are not legal immigration policies. Thats fucking crap. JCanete Jan 2019 #109

He has 'them' scared to death. Fix The Stupid Jan 2019 #115

Once upon a time TheFarseer Jan 2019 #128

they weren't liberals . they might have been democrats but not liberals JI7 Jan 2019 #132

This. We have progressed. Joe941 Jan 2019 #133