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The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
25. Are you being deliberately ignorant?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:03 PM
Aug 2012

There are more than enough facts for any thinking person to admit that this is not about rape at all.

I think you've been told that prosecutors already dismissed Assange after he DID make himself available for questioning.

You've ignored it.

I think you've been told that the rape case wasn't re-opened until after the leak of the intel by Wikileaks.

You ignored that.

I believe you've been told that right after Assange's hearing on extradition, SoS Clinton made an unprecedented trip to Sweden, about which Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said: “We will warmly welcome Secretary Clinton to Stockholm next Sunday. First bilateral visit to Sweden by a US SecState for a very long time.

You've either ignored that, or have dismissed it in order to cling to your laughable position.

I'm pretty sure you've been told that Assange offered to go to Sweden IF the Swedes guarantee non-extradition to the US, which has international precedent, but for a reason you can't rationally explain, they refused to grant such a guarantee.

Naturally, as that one fact right there puts the silver bullet through the silly notion that this is only about the rape allegations, you've chosen to ignore that as well.

Or the fact that Assange has invited the Swedes to come to the Ecuadoran embassy to interview him, another scenario with precedent, yet they insist that it MUST be done in Sweden where they will not guarantee non-extradition to the US, it is Blatantly Obvious to anyone with two working brain cells what is going on here.

But you are ignoring that as well.

Since you're presumably not a moron, the only conclusion we can reach over your insistence that this is about rape, is that you are deliberately ignorant in order to maintain your negative view of Assange.

I find this more reprehensible than mere stupidity. So why do you do it?
When I have to pay 15% just to "true up" an underpayment for one year.... NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #1
NYC_SKP KoKo Aug 2012 #2
Hahahaha! Why, yes! NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #4
No Problem..we all have these "lapses" from time to time............ KoKo Aug 2012 #8
I thought it was just me and I must be going mad Swagman Aug 2012 #3
It's frightening to ME that this stuff against Assange is going on! KoKo Aug 2012 #9
It seems we are losing our innocence. Cleita Aug 2012 #20
yes..it's been going downhill for awhile now... KoKo Aug 2012 #27
THANK YOU Harry Truman Iggy Aug 2012 #36
More Americans failing to understand the Swedish legal process. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #5
If anyone thinks this is really about rape they don't know movonne Aug 2012 #6
And more people unacquainted with logic Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #7
Under normal circumstances these things would be important. Gregorian Aug 2012 #10
No Offense: "Spider Jerusalem" for your DU Handle...but USA is Waiting Like Spider KoKo Aug 2012 #11
Which is why he's being extradited to Sweden on rape charges. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #12
"Spider" ...then both of us since 2001 and we are now at WAR with Each Other.... KoKo Aug 2012 #21
Because I'm capable of nuanced thought? Possibly? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #24
lol's.. I've never been accused of not being "nuanced" and apparently, neither have you.. KoKo Aug 2012 #34
Supporting Assange is some kind of litmus test now for posting here, or for being a Democrat? lightcameron Aug 2012 #17
No, lightcameron. It is not a 'litmus test'. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #31
It's possible people are so overwhelmed with news they aren't up to speed on Assange Issues... KoKo Aug 2012 #37
That's rather simplistic thinking at best. mythology Aug 2012 #54
Ummm.... wow. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #55
I'm out here in Cha Aug 2012 #13
Cha....I'm asking. Why do you think Assange and Manning have so much support KoKo Aug 2012 #14
Yes, KoKo, I have a different opinion on this.. Cha Aug 2012 #22
Thanks Cha...but, you are NOW the Majority on DU and those of us who post info & links KoKo Aug 2012 #23
Excellent post. lightcameron Aug 2012 #16
Wrong! The US can't extradite him from UK, or Sweden, or anywhere else., HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #45
I find this to be nonsensical and absurd and paranoid. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #46
They have in the past. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #49
"Spider" I think this goes beyond your good description of Legalize...just saying/n/t KoKo Aug 2012 #18
Are you being deliberately ignorant? The Doctor. Aug 2012 #25
No, but I think you're apparently being deliberately ignorant Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #26
Putting it Plainly! After the Wars after 9/11 would you trust any of these countries KoKo Aug 2012 #28
I'm not sure what Sweden had to do with any of that Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #29
Surely you've seen the Articles about Sweden Renditioning Captives for Bush/Rove? KoKo Aug 2012 #30
I've seen one instance of extraordinary rendition in 2001. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #32
UK has harder extradition laws than Sweden. Remember they kept Pinochet....... KoKo Aug 2012 #39
There is no longer any question of your ignorance, because I KNOW this has been explained to you. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #33
The US would have to give reason to extradite to Sweden as well Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #35
We have an arrangement with Sweden. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #47
"An arrangement". Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #48
You were poorly informed about Mckinnon. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #51
I live in the UK. I'm aware he's still here. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #52
Then his was a poor choice of example. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #53
I think you didn't take time to read Poster "Doctor" comments though... KoKo Aug 2012 #38
I took the time to read. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #40
Well...then all I can say to you...If I was Assange...I would fear for my life KoKo Aug 2012 #42
This kid needs to do his research. lightcameron Aug 2012 #15
BUT...the WORLD MEDIA of the "Paid for Access" have a huge Disinfo Campaign KoKo Aug 2012 #19
Paid or not, there's a huge disinfo campaign going on. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #50
He was 'questioned' - he was let go - xchrom Aug 2012 #41
You are correct...and I could find link...but I'd do work and no one would believe KoKo Aug 2012 #43
It's ok koko - they know. xchrom Aug 2012 #44
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