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bitterross

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85. Than you so much for this.

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 01:15 AM

Jan 2019

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I hope you do not mind I have copied it and I have pasted it on sites like TheHill in response to right-wingers.

Such a great job summarizing the issue and providing references I love you!

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What Happened When A Trump Supporter Challenged Me About the Wall [View all] babylonsister Dec 2018 OP

The Wall debate isn't about facts. Girard442 Dec 2018 #1

Correct. The wall is akin to the anti-abortion stance of churches. It's used to solidify and fleece. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #13

As an aside, there is exactly one thing in the Bible which is germane to abortion Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2018 #30

Also, child is not born until its first breath. There are several passages about fetuses dying. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #33

Yes, there should be a punishment for causing a miscarriage Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2018 #83

what about Numbers 5:11-31 Locrian Dec 2018 #80

"Stupid is as Stupid Does." (Forrest Gump's mom). maddiemom Dec 2018 #24

Your energy is better utilized where it makes a difference lunatica Dec 2018 #57

It isn't even about a wall NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #67

Very useful, babylonsister. Thanks for posting it. Glorfindel Dec 2018 #2

Thank you for this, babylonsister Ohiogal Dec 2018 #3

Can you walk me through that? WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2018 #49

At the bottom of the OP (original post) there is a Bookmark tab. Click that; it turns yellow Hekate Dec 2018 #56

Thanks so much! WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2018 #59

Thank you for the explanation. I've never used the bookmark function before. llmart Dec 2018 #60

Excellent. Thank you. yardwork Dec 2018 #4

Fabulous compendium-thanks! Pantagruel Dec 2018 #5

Boommarked for the inevitable future use. irisblue Dec 2018 #6

may I use this? onethatcares Dec 2018 #7

It's ok by me, just use link babylonsister Dec 2018 #9

Since it comes from CATO, I'd say yes. Just credit the source. 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #12

Excellent facts. Sadly, most wall supporters just want a Monument-to-Hatred on our border. Hoyt Dec 2018 #8

There you have it. It's zero sum. Iggo Dec 2018 #34

Trump wants a permanent monument to himself. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2018 #40

Stupid people don't know they're stupid. Doitnow Dec 2018 #51

Well done, watoos Dec 2018 #10

Great list and great post. Nt lostnfound Dec 2018 #11

Trump will not give the REAL reason for his wall. Archae Dec 2018 #14

The reality, going forward, to me is profoundly heartbreaking. DontBooVote Dec 2018 #54

So is Hitler's name... llmart Dec 2018 #62

K&R x 5 billion Martin Eden Dec 2018 #15

Thank you! Bookmarking! GoneOffShore Dec 2018 #16

Awesome! Bookmarked. ancianita Dec 2018 #17

Thank you for this post LittleGirl Dec 2018 #18

not communist; Stalinist Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #28

Yes, Hermit. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #73

This is excellent! PatSeg Dec 2018 #19

Copied and saved Bayard Dec 2018 #20

K & R & bookmarked! SunSeeker Dec 2018 #21

A must read dalton99a Dec 2018 #22

Well said and well sourced! B Stieg Dec 2018 #23

May I homegirl Dec 2018 #25

Excellent summary of why a wall is not the solution to the problem. Grammy23 Dec 2018 #26

+5,000,000,000 chwaliszewski Dec 2018 #27

K&R Kurt V. Dec 2018 #29

I bow in the presence of greatness. That was brilliant. :) nt Javaman Dec 2018 #31

Thank you!! hwmnbn Dec 2018 #32

Excellent! Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2018 #35

They are so insistent on being ignorant! FM123 Dec 2018 #36

Great post. Book-marked. n/t Whiskeytide Dec 2018 #37

The Berlin Wall was not just a wall. cab67 Dec 2018 #38

Berlin wall was to keep them in from escaping not from coming in AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #39

useless side point - cab67 Dec 2018 #69

I just quote Benjamin Franklin on this subject: Initech Dec 2018 #41

A good comparison is with the war on drugs. cab67 Dec 2018 #42

Our congress members need to hit the TV news shows with some of these facts. K&R. Elwood P Dowd Dec 2018 #43

I'm a little surprised. Usually they respond with a red herring fallacy unrelated to your reply. ffr Dec 2018 #44

BTW, many landowners who would have their land seized are rural Republicans. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #45

K&R and bookmarked! smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #46

I have started asking trixie2 Dec 2018 #47

Sadly, about 51 million people, give or take, have indicated in PatrickforO Dec 2018 #48

Well, facts are stubborn things. This is an OUTSTANDING post. calimary Dec 2018 #50

It's shame that, as someone above mentioned, facts simply do not matter to most Trumpers. xor Dec 2018 #52

Thank you babylonsister for posting this and on your research to get the facts! denvine Dec 2018 #53

Thank you for this. thucythucy Dec 2018 #55

KnR n Bookmark. Kudos to the author Hekate Dec 2018 #58

Thanks Sister! sellitman Dec 2018 #61

I've been arguing with conservatives against the wall using only facts. Nitram Dec 2018 #63

kick Hamlette Dec 2018 #64

Humpty Trumpty wants a big wall... Talitha Dec 2018 #65

That will certainly come in handy! Thanks! marble falls Dec 2018 #66

Trump Couldn't Care Less Cheviteau Dec 2018 #68

Good on ya! You should always include a link to this brilliant YouTube video as well LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #70

I used the Cato Institute article a couple of weeks ago with a Conservative FB Friend Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #71

walla are ugly hideous and usesless structures. But.... i want to put a WALL around Trump. A Jail. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #72

Thank you for your thoughtful response to others UpInArms Dec 2018 #74

The fine for knowingly hiring an illegal immigrant is as low as $250. tclambert Dec 2018 #75

Hey, need your help on a related topic Lithos Dec 2018 #76

Here's results from a quick search: babylonsister Dec 2018 #81

Great post, as always! Poiuyt Dec 2018 #77

Excellent article. Quite useful. I plan to share this widely . . . Journeyman Dec 2018 #78

One of the most useful posts I've ever come across on DU DonaldsRump Dec 2018 #79

K&R rpannier Dec 2018 #82

K Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #84

Than you so much for this. bitterross Jan 2019 #85