Why couldn't it be both? But for suppressed turnout in Philly and Michigan and possibly (Reply #29)

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Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:03 PM

29. Why couldn't it be both? But for suppressed turnout in Philly and Michigan and possibly

Florida Clinton would have won. The margin in those states was small. I don’t think voter suppression had much to do with her losing those states. I was there and remember wat was being said about Hillary criminalizing blackness and Clinton’s anti-black policies during his presidency. I think it absolutely had an impact on those states she lost by those tiny margins.

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62 replies	Author	Time	Post
No, Russia Did Not Cause Black People To .....Whatever We're Being Blamed For, Now [View all]	spicysista	Dec 2018	OP
Nothing wrong with being salty	Glamrock	Dec 2018	#1
Thanks, Glamrock. ;)	spicysista	Dec 2018	#2
Oh my god!	Glamrock	Dec 2018	#5
Here's a breakdown of 2006 and 2018 exit polls for anyone interested	pecosbob	Dec 2018	#3
Thanks for the link.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#7
Yes, and as I posted in another thread we should be more specific when we use the term evangelicals	pecosbob	Dec 2018	#9
:)	spicysista	Dec 2018	#11
I don't like the use of the term evangelical at all.	murielm99	Dec 2018	#14
I stand corrected...	pecosbob	Dec 2018	#17
Obviously, those Christians who make a point	Mariana	Dec 2018	#22
Yes, actually it was white Fundamentalists who voted heavily for Trump.	raging moderate	Dec 2018	#26
Yes.	murielm99	Dec 2018	#46
Thank you. Your post was much less salty than my thoughts when I first saw the original	LoisB	Dec 2018	#4
It certainly made me feel a way.....	spicysista	Dec 2018	#8
They need to cut it out with the myth that a dip in turnout by us was due to something other than	Afromania	Dec 2018	#6
Exactly! This...	spicysista	Dec 2018	#10
what actually happened and even more openly happened in Georgia just last month against a Black	JI7	Dec 2018	#12
Yes, a thousand times....yes!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#13
k&r	bigtree	Dec 2018	#15
Thank you, bigtree! ;) nt.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#16
How do you know what influence Russia had on the black community?	Kentonio	Dec 2018	#18
I know our own children were persuaded by various information they read and heard in the media.	allgood33	Dec 2018	#19
+1	betsuni	Dec 2018	#20
Well, Kentonio, I did not make this assertion...at all.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#23
I'm right beside you	Kentonio	Dec 2018	#31
;)	spicysista	Dec 2018	#33
Great post	malaise	Dec 2018	#21
Thank you, malaise!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#24
I agree. We all need to stop blaming each other for Trump becoming President.	Tom Rinaldo	Dec 2018	#25
I hope we can all agree to stop with circular firing squads attacking the most loyal Democratic ....	spicysista	Dec 2018	#27
russian bots concentrated social media attacks AND fake news	beachbum bob	Dec 2018	#28
All good points, to be sure.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#30
When con artists swindle people with false assertions, our legal system knows where to fix blame	Tom Rinaldo	Dec 2018	#36
Why couldn't it be both? But for suppressed turnout in Philly and Michigan and possibly	Dream Girl	Dec 2018	#29
Sure...	spicysista	Dec 2018	#32
I agree & am well aware of the vile actions involved with voter suppression. However, we need to be	Dream Girl	Dec 2018	#44
You are right.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#45
"But for suppressed turnout in Philly"	BumRushDaShow	Dec 2018	#61
I don't think the issue here is really blame, but rather susceptibility and targeted status.	better	Dec 2018	#34
I'm sorry , I must have missed your post. I would have answered sooner.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#41
I definitely get where you are coming from.	better	Dec 2018	#47
Hmmmm.... yup! I like it!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#49
All good, and thanks for the intellectual conversation!	better	Dec 2018	#50
"Make things better." What a beautiful way of being!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#54
I also like...	better	Dec 2018	#56
The focus	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2018	#35
I agree with this, Proud Liberal Dem!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#37
I definitely agree on that as well	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2018	#38
I'm with you 100%!	Stellar	Dec 2018	#39
Thanks, Stellar. ;)	spicysista	Dec 2018	#42
I'm not really inclined to give the Russians a free pass	fescuerescue	Dec 2018	#40
Yup....I said all THOSE things....	spicysista	Dec 2018	#43
Thanks I must have missed it	fescuerescue	Dec 2018	#48
Okay, I'll bite.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#51
There's no bait or hook.	fescuerescue	Dec 2018	#58
That's good news, because I am NO fish! LOL!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#59
K&R!	eleny	Dec 2018	#52
Thank you, eleny!	spicysista	Dec 2018	#53
This is on my nerves since yesterday	eleny	Dec 2018	#60
You are 100% right. I assumed it wa a given that most DUers would understand that attempts by Russia	Anon-C	Dec 2018	#55
Thank you, Anon-C.	spicysista	Dec 2018	#57
538 did some great tweets on this...	Adrahil	Dec 2018	#62

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