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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 02:25 PM

11. Seems to me there's two ways you can go.

Option A: eliminate gender discrimination and have everyone compete on the same field.

This would have a negative effect on college sports in terms of athletics (and Title IX, etc). But you'd have the advantage of not having to worry about where each of the 60+ genders fall. For example, a pangender individual doesn't have to be be assigned to a category (male/female) that doesn't work for them.

Option B: use biology

The only reason we have segregated athletics is because we believe (rightly or wrongly) that certain categories have explicit advantages over others. We don't have middle schoolers competing against college students in basketball. We don't place 135 lb wrestlers against 190 lb wrestlers. For a sport like running, there is a belief that men have a physical advantage over women, and therefore we've opted for segregating male and female runners. That belief might be faulty, in which case, we should switch to option A above. However, if this belief is rooted in reality, then to decide how to continue segregating, it would make sense to ask where the advantage comes from. If it comes from biology (which sex you were born as), then that should be the dividing line. If the advantage comes from identity (how you identify), then that should be the dividing line. Although the self-identifying has the same issue as mentioned above: if someone identifies as non-binary, where do they go? The male/female segregation seems to be based on biology, so if we're going to continue segregating, then biology is the only factor that would make sense.

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