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K&R Cleita Aug 2012 #1
this country is a rogue state in a lot of ways. datasuspect Aug 2012 #2
Sadly, I'm believing that more and more as time passes. It won't last. Trust me the gig is about Purveyor Aug 2012 #3
Since 1954? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #4
nah. i'd say since JFK had the temerity to think he ran shit. datasuspect Aug 2012 #14
Ding, ding, ding! hifiguy Aug 2012 #35
No country apart from those in Latin America party to the OAS Convention recognises it. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #10
good thing we can do summary executions without trials anywhere on the globe then. datasuspect Aug 2012 #12
Fang Lizh and Chen Guangcheng used it at the US embassy. Ichingcarpenter Aug 2012 #18
No, actually, they didn't Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #24
Tell that to Cardinal József Mindszenty who spent 15 years at the US Embassy in Budapest. leveymg Aug 2012 #20
There appears to be a difference between political and diplomatic asylum hack89 Aug 2012 #31
The right to asylum is conferred under the UN Convention on the Status of Refugees. No distinction leveymg Aug 2012 #41
Then why is the OAS the only group that appears to recognize diplomatic asylum? hack89 Aug 2012 #43
It's the only group to recognize a difference that doesn't otherwise exist in refugee law. leveymg Aug 2012 #45
CNN has just posted a primer on the matter hack89 Aug 2012 #47
That predates the 1951 UN Convention on the Status of Refugees. Moot. Sorry. leveymg Aug 2012 #50
There doesn't appear to be an international consensus forming around your theory hack89 Aug 2012 #51
That's because the 800lb gorilla still dominates that consensus, and others keep their mouths shut leveymg Aug 2012 #52
That's right. You only have the right to asylum if the US likes you. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #53
OK nt. hack89 Aug 2012 #56
But the accords also have specific definitions of what a refugee is and is not hack89 Aug 2012 #54
Ah, that explains why the UK gave up Pinochet to Spain! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #59
Pinochet never claimed refugee status or asylum from any country hack89 Aug 2012 #61
Again, you are wrong. Pinochet's immunity claim was rejected. leveymg Aug 2012 #66
Since I never claimed it was accepted, how can I be wrong? hack89 Aug 2012 #70
Your point was misleading. Made it seem that Pinochet had immunity, which he didn't. leveymg Aug 2012 #72
Since I merely said that he "claimed immunity" hack89 Aug 2012 #74
I've already explained that to you, hack. You're simply wrong on all counts. leveymg Aug 2012 #62
Upton Sinclair said it best: backscatter712 Aug 2012 #64
Considering how no one else seems to agree with you hack89 Aug 2012 #69
Aside from CNN, you've cited no sources. What are they? leveymg Aug 2012 #73
Time will tell. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #75
Luis Posada tama Aug 2012 #39
Way to go Hillary, you Goldwater girl you. byeya Aug 2012 #5
Tough shit. Ecuador is a soverign nation hifiguy Aug 2012 #6
so was Iraq datasuspect Aug 2012 #8
so was Syria (1949), Iran (1953), Guatemala (1954), Indonesia (1958) . . . leveymg Aug 2012 #25
I laugh, but only ironically. hifiguy Aug 2012 #27
U.S. foreign policy has been in reruns so long, it's broadcast in black-and-white. leveymg Aug 2012 #29
If all it was was a case of "date rape" or a "broken condom", the US wouldn't give a shit. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #7
some super important wealthy people ended up with egg on their face datasuspect Aug 2012 #9
Revenge RobertEarl Aug 2012 #22
Revenge, possibly, but I tend to think it is a case of tsuki Aug 2012 #32
Yep. And if they get him hifiguy Aug 2012 #15
yep. datasuspect Aug 2012 #17
Why Our Government Thinks It Has Any Say In This, Sir, Mystifies Me.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #11
UHHHMERICA!!! FUCK YEAH!!!! datasuspect Aug 2012 #13
Number One In Bestness, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #16
Because they are a member of the Organization of American States? hack89 Aug 2012 #30
Evidently, Sir, We Do Not Consider Its Conventions Binding On Us.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #34
Since we specifically did not sign that convention in 1954 hack89 Aug 2012 #44
... "We believe this is a bilateral issue between Ecuador and the United Kingdom and that struggle4progress Aug 2012 #40
Oh, that's right, the OAS has no say, only the US does! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #55
The OAS plans a meeting on Ecuador's asylum; the US belong to the OAS; so the US is asked struggle4progress Aug 2012 #67
Things that make you go hmmmmm Marrah_G Aug 2012 #42
Let's be frank: the US doesn't recognize international law, period kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #19
the problems with other countries is that the are ummmmm independent????? dembotoz Aug 2012 #21
Send out the drones. Downwinder Aug 2012 #23
Oh well THAT'S going to go over well with the Central and Latin American countries riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #26
Like I keep saying, this is an International Incident lunatica Aug 2012 #28
Huh then why did they let that blind guy from China hide in the US Embassy malaise Aug 2012 #33
See post 24. n/t tammywammy Aug 2012 #37
That the US felt it had to weigh in on this AT ALL says everything riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #36
Exactly - the US has made it clear they're very interested in this case. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #60
What the US says is becoming irrelevent fascisthunter Aug 2012 #38
I googled pics of the embassy flobee1 Aug 2012 #46
Not likely - London cops are everywhere in that area, specifically looking for him. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #68
The Ecuadorian embassy is only one flat in that building struggle4progress Aug 2012 #77
So, the state who housed Cardinal Mindszenty for decades in its Budapest embassy Jack Rabbit Aug 2012 #48
The Hungarian government had the legal high ground in that particular case hack89 Aug 2012 #49
As Emil Zola said, "The law is an ass." Jack Rabbit Aug 2012 #57
So who was right in that case - the US or the Hungarians? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #58
If one is a lawyer, the Hungarians at least had a case Jack Rabbit Aug 2012 #63
Under the '51 UN Convention, the US could grant asylum to the Cardinal. Certainly, today, Ecuador leveymg Aug 2012 #65
Is this the face the Obama Administration really wants to show to World? 99Forever Aug 2012 #71
The US won't take sides in the disagreement between the UK and Ecuador! Quick! Fetch my salts! struggle4progress Aug 2012 #78
9/11 gave us the right to any fucking thing we want Ezlivin Aug 2012 #76
DU rages as US stays out of bilateral dispute! News at 11 or whenever our meds kick in! struggle4progress Aug 2012 #79
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