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Glamrock

(11,787 posts) Sat Dec 15, 2018, 04:39 PM Dec 2018

Can my fellow DU fambly help me understand? [View all]

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this. But this is an actual true to god question. Okay, here goes.

Why Kamala Harris? I'm not seeing it. I'm sorry. I'm just not. Before you start lobbing accusations of misogyny at an ally let me make myself clear.

She's not even a one term Senator at this point. She's been a member of the federal gov't for less than two years. She has no committee memberships on anything relating to foreign policy. According to KamalaHarris.Org, her one legislative accomplishment is getting a law passed gauranteeing free tampons and pads for inmates. And while that is awesome, and I fully support it, that seems like that's about it.

She's been one hell of a questioner on the Judiciary committee, to be sure. Hell, she damn near brought Jeff Sessions to tears. But so did Franken.

She's had a very impressive career as a DA and AG. No doubt about it. But, we've never had a successful run for President based on the accomplishments of either of those offices.

Furthermore, she doesn't seem to be a particularly inspiring speaker, ala Obama or Kennedy. I don't get it. The only real argument I see is "we need a female",and "we need a minority".

Truth be told, I admire thee shit of this woman. She is definately strong, she's definately fierce, and she definately works for my own personal agenda. And I love her for it. Bit a presidential run at this point?

There are plenty of you who I respect the shit out of who are on the Harris bandwagon. Because of that, I'm researching and trying to understand. Please help me out here. That's all I'm asking. I hope it's not just because "we need a female and/or minority".

P.S. please please please do not answer this post with "what does so and, so bring to the table?" That's another discussion entirely. I'm really trying to understand the push for Harris. Those questions, while entirely legitimate, ain't gonna get me there.

Those that know me know this is a sincere question. I give a damn about the future of our party. Those who don't? I guess you'll have to either take me at my word, or flame away. Regardless, please try to sell me on her. That's all I'm asking.

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Can my fellow DU fambly help me understand? [View all] Glamrock Dec 2018 OP

I like her very much. While there's something to be said for holding out The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #1

I'm not saying I reject her Ocelot. Glamrock Dec 2018 #2

I thought Obama was "once in a generation inspirational" too True Dough Dec 2018 #27

Yep, Glamrock Dec 2018 #28

Who ever is the nominee, I'll support. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #3

Me too man, me to. Glamrock Dec 2018 #5

Way too early snowybirdie Dec 2018 #4

As am I. Glamrock Dec 2018 #6

Smart, progressive, outspoken, bold, respected oberliner Dec 2018 #7

Then please, let the list go on. Glamrock Dec 2018 #13

Experience as California Attorney General, Lifetime Political Activist, Good Campaigner oberliner Dec 2018 #32

But will these things sway independents? Glamrock Dec 2018 #37

I think she would be a strong candidate oberliner Dec 2018 #43

People forget that California would easily be the population of 6 states if it were broken up. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2018 #57

Exactly oberliner Dec 2018 #67

Can a state do that and have it accepted by the Federal government? Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2018 #90

As I said it was on the ballot several years ago, but was defeated because people didn't have enough politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2018 #92

California has many of the nation's top universities and it is probably the most competitive politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2018 #62

Can a progressive spend their professional live as a prosecutor? Mosby Dec 2018 #21

Yes oberliner Dec 2018 #34

Good to know, thank you! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2018 #38

She also gave Mnuchin a pass TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #46

She has about the same credentials that Obama had after the 2006 election... First Speaker Dec 2018 #8

True true Glamrock Dec 2018 #11

Uhh. No one was paying attention to Obama until he gave DURHAM D Dec 2018 #15

True true yet again. Glamrock Dec 2018 #20

She is reasonably young, female, Indian American and black and has some charisma. ... spin Dec 2018 #9

Ok Glamrock Dec 2018 #26

In today's world being well qualified and good presidential material ... spin Dec 2018 #31

Exactly. Glamrock Dec 2018 #35

I haven't watched her speak often enough to form an opinion on her ... spin Dec 2018 #44

There is too much at stake this time around Glamrock Dec 2018 #56

Good point. (n/t) spin Dec 2018 #66

so far I agree with you. OregonBlue Dec 2018 #54

I'm not thrilled about her cloudbase Dec 2018 #10

Coupla questions . . . . . Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #22

My objection is solely to her support of civil forfeiture. cloudbase Dec 2018 #70

You missed one of my questions: Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #71

Agree - a bit of time in the pits of politics would be helpful. Executive level experience is good erronis Dec 2018 #12

That's not what I'm saying at all, man. Glamrock Dec 2018 #16

I haven't paid enough attention to her, but... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2018 #14

Can't disagree with any of that.... Glamrock Dec 2018 #17

Also as a point of contrast NotASurfer Dec 2018 #18

Okay. I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment. Glamrock Dec 2018 #29

That's just an observation as to "why" NotASurfer Dec 2018 #69

Review the background and history of Barack Obama Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #19

Nah man. Glamrock Dec 2018 #24

I agree with you about Obama TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #50

Agreed. 100% Glamrock Dec 2018 #53

Obama was a first time Senator before he ran lunatica Dec 2018 #23

Do you back her Luna? Glamrock Dec 2018 #25

I didn't mean to sound accusatory at all! lunatica Dec 2018 #73

Oh gosh! Glamrock Dec 2018 #75

It seems like you're discounting many of the responses here. lunatica Dec 2018 #77

Not really. Glamrock Dec 2018 #78

I guess I'm confused about what you're looking for lunatica Dec 2018 #84

Check out MaryMagdaline's post way down thread. Glamrock Dec 2018 #86

I recall a story that when she was AG the state of California wanted the code rurallib Dec 2018 #30

Could that have been Debra Bowen? StatGirl Dec 2018 #60

I am fairly sure it was Harris. I had never heard of her before that rurallib Dec 2018 #68

She has co-sponsored a bill with Bernie Sanders to require paper ballots lunatica Dec 2018 #74

asked that once here. her attributes at that time were generic and nothing special. msongs Dec 2018 #33

I'm really starting yo get freaked out here msongs. Glamrock Dec 2018 #45

She failed to prosecute Steve Mnuchin and roody Dec 2018 #36

Frankly, one of the messes the Democratic Party has managed to get into over the past decades... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #39

At 54, Kamala Harris is in the middle. So is Amy Klobochar, 58. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #42

First of all Glamrock Dec 2018 #49

I think she'd be great in debates against DT. She'd mop the floor with him. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #40

HRC kicked Trumps ass in the debates Mosby Dec 2018 #64

She won by 2.9 million votes pnwmom Dec 2018 #65

Voters who decided based on the debates favored Trump Awsi Dooger Dec 2018 #72

Among the most important matters you raise, imo: elleng Dec 2018 #41

Listen Ellen, Glamrock Dec 2018 #47

With you 100%. elleng Dec 2018 #48

It is! It totally is! Glamrock Dec 2018 #52

Being inspirational is a good thing, but not the only or first concern. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #51

She's a winner. Iggo Dec 2018 #55

I really like her and you are right about her legislative accomplishments but to me Autumn Dec 2018 #58

I could have gotten behind Franken too. Glamrock Dec 2018 #76

Early specualation about who is running and who isn't is just entertainment at this time. Kaleva Dec 2018 #59

She's smart and savvy. How about VP to Ilsa Dec 2018 #61

Not against it at all. Glamrock Dec 2018 #63

I think people are looking for a strong debater and tough personality to face Trump MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #79

That's a damn good point. Glamrock Dec 2018 #80

Thanks, Glamrock! MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #81

Thank you. Glamrock Dec 2018 #83

we're going to be confronted with a whole host of candidates with more aspiration bigtree Dec 2018 #82

Very thoughtful post. Mucho appreciado. Glamrock Dec 2018 #85

heh bigtree Dec 2018 #87

Grassy ass. Glamrock Dec 2018 #88

I believe you are sincere... tonedevil Dec 2018 #89

I've finally gotten some good answers Glamrock Dec 2018 #91