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blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
128. Um, I'm pretty sure that my best friend had a crush on him as well.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:35 AM
Aug 2012

And I'm pretty sure that she would have done the same that I would have done and kept her mouth shut.

Exploit the situation? I fell asleep every night thinking about him.

I knew wha was up at 17. If my SIL can give birth at 16, raise her child to be a productive member of society and not look back, why can't I have sex at the same age?

Our laws are archaic.

Are they both republicans? Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #1
Agree! LeftofObama Aug 2012 #3
Over 18 doesn't necessarily mean consenting LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #2
If there were threats there would have been charges reflecting that cali Aug 2012 #6
If that's all it was, then no, there should have been no charges LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #15
She was in a position of authority over them. gollygee Aug 2012 #4
It sounds like she was in several positions with them. AngryAmish Aug 2012 #7
BWAAAAHAHA!!! DAMMIT! tblue Aug 2012 #127
If they were coerced that would be reflected in the charges. cali Aug 2012 #8
Hmm one would hope gollygee Aug 2012 #11
Yes. LWolf Aug 2012 #147
Coercion could factor in as well--when there are power inequities hlthe2b Aug 2012 #5
There is a caveat about a person of higher power, like a teacher, having sex Cleita Aug 2012 #9
There are still business HockeyMom Aug 2012 #35
If she was in a position of authority over them, yes. Avalux Aug 2012 #10
ugh. fire her. but prosecute her for consensual sex. No. cali Aug 2012 #14
What about sex between two consenting adults in the middle of Times Square? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #12
or on my lawn Electric Monk Aug 2012 #28
In the middle of Times Square LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #70
That's what I'm thinking. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #74
Creepy maybe, illegal not sure... Veritas Omnia Vincit Aug 2012 #13
Fired? Yes. Prison. No. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #16
If they were still going to school, she was in a position of authority over them. haele Aug 2012 #17
Of course she should be fired. That's a no brainer cali Aug 2012 #18
Same age range; Male teacher, female students. All of "age of consent" haele Aug 2012 #51
Prison inmates and guards? jberryhill Aug 2012 #19
OK, good point. Prison inmates and guards IS one category that I cali Aug 2012 #20
But why? jberryhill Aug 2012 #22
easy peasy. because the prisoner inherently can't consent cali Aug 2012 #25
Why can't the inmate consent? jberryhill Aug 2012 #32
required to be there? how quaint. cali Aug 2012 #34
Tell me how to get a high school diploma... jberryhill Aug 2012 #100
Lol, your whole argument is silly! You know students HAVE to be in school??? Logical Aug 2012 #112
nope. most states allow those who reach 16 to drop out. cali Aug 2012 #129
Lol, so your argument it you have to have sex with your teacher... Logical Aug 2012 #140
I disagree. An inmate can consent to sex with a jailer. cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #55
Why do you say a minor cannot sign a contract? jberryhill Aug 2012 #105
Sure a prisoner could consent MattBaggins Aug 2012 #78
I imagine we all have an arbitrary line somewhere... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #26
yup its all down to our own interpretation loli phabay Aug 2012 #83
However jberryhill Aug 2012 #108
yup i get it, i was more picking on the point the op made about as long as there is no physical harm loli phabay Aug 2012 #119
I was a correctional officer Blue_In_AK Aug 2012 #114
No, that is the proper course of action jberryhill Aug 2012 #120
Excellent. Logical and concice. joshcryer Aug 2012 #97
What's wrong with a doctor and a patient? Ter Aug 2012 #98
A psychiatrist? jberryhill Aug 2012 #106
Prison inmates lose many of their legal rights by virtue of the fact that they're in prison Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #102
Do the guards lose theirs? jberryhill Aug 2012 #117
they certainly lose their freedoms but prisoner's rights should be established and written down. Swagman Aug 2012 #135
In Nevada, that's rape Nevernose Aug 2012 #21
holy shit. that's awful cali Aug 2012 #23
It is 16 in Pennsylvania too jberryhill Aug 2012 #24
huh? The age of consent is 16 in Vermont too cali Aug 2012 #33
Your parenting choices may be different MattBaggins Aug 2012 #80
I'm with ya blueamy66 Aug 2012 #115
It's called "transference" jberryhill Aug 2012 #121
Um, I'm pretty sure that my best friend had a crush on him as well. blueamy66 Aug 2012 #128
Wait, wait - they have a separate age of consent for gay sex? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #45
Yep. n/t LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #75
How is that even the slightest bit constitutional? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #76
Same reason they can't marry in the wedding chapels LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #91
Yep Nevernose Aug 2012 #109
Suppose the student is 30? Ter Aug 2012 #99
The law is applicable to high school age Nevernose Aug 2012 #110
None of the laws are drafted that way jberryhill Aug 2012 #122
i thought this thread was going to be about julian Assange.... robinlynne Aug 2012 #27
No. But... Alduin Aug 2012 #29
Current or former teacher? Peepsite Aug 2012 #30
Duh - she's a "former teacher" because they FIRED her for it jberryhill Aug 2012 #116
It should be illegal to have sex with a republican. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #31
It should be illegal for a Republican to have sex meow2u3 Aug 2012 #58
You are right still_one Aug 2012 #68
It's illegal in Texas for teachers and students Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #36
1 student? Maybe; but 5 sounds a bit -- predatory Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #37
So what? Yes, it's sleazy but why does the number matter? cali Aug 2012 #44
She apparently sees students as targets. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #49
It is not sleazy... It is predatory MattBaggins Aug 2012 #81
"consent" is a bit murky when there's a power relationship. unblock Aug 2012 #38
I don't find this case murky at all cali Aug 2012 #41
you simply cannot go on that alone because the denial could be effectively coerced as well. unblock Aug 2012 #48
Consent is what an adult says it is. Period. cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #61
the age of consent to sex varies from state to state cali Aug 2012 #62
Out of necessity, adulthood and consent must be a legal bright line cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #64
but adults change what they're willing to say all the time. unblock Aug 2012 #65
Is 18 AND finished with school MattBaggins Aug 2012 #82
Who does she think she is Politicalboi Aug 2012 #39
No. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #40
No. hifiguy Aug 2012 #42
That law is unconstitutional cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #43
Can you explain why it's unconstitutional? cali Aug 2012 #47
The whole nexus of decisions cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #53
Thanks for the explanation. cali Aug 2012 #57
This is the law in many if not most states. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #67
And thankfully I can maintain it is unconstitutional cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #69
This would never get to the Supreme Court and if it did MattBaggins Aug 2012 #85
That's gibberish cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #93
You're welcome to think what you want. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #89
Absolutely awesome post. +1 nt Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #125
And it would be a substantial one... jberryhill Aug 2012 #139
That is a ridiculous analysis jberryhill Aug 2012 #138
It's unconstitutional? Then we'd better fucking pack the SCOTUS until it IS constitutional! Wednesdays Aug 2012 #107
Text of the facially unconstituional law cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #46
What makes it unconstitutional? Honest question. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #50
Her teaching credentials should be revoked but prison? No. appleannie1 Aug 2012 #52
Yes, when you ask it that way quaker bill Aug 2012 #54
Something not many in this thread seem to realize cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #56
No they do not MattBaggins Aug 2012 #86
WTF? cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #94
Maybe. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #90
If it was college, I wouldn't sayit was criminal unless there was coercion. Ilsa Aug 2012 #59
that's just crazy. Who cares if it was high school? cali Aug 2012 #60
Hold onto your hat, Cali... cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #63
Yes it would still be illegal MattBaggins Aug 2012 #87
By that definition no police officer would ever be allowed to date LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #73
Yes. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #66
Generally, two consenting adults having sex Proles Aug 2012 #71
I think in some cases it should be heavily discouraged SilveryMoon Aug 2012 #72
Not if one is mentally incompetent. nt jody Aug 2012 #77
Its really easy not to screw your students. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #79
ugh. I'm so sick of this puritanical bullshit coming from the left. cali Aug 2012 #130
I am no more puritanical than you are supportive of abusive relationships aikoaiko Aug 2012 #137
I'm afraid you are. As are all of those who think there's a need to protect 18 year olds cali Aug 2012 #143
Are you not concerned about teachers grooming minors while under 18 for sexual relationships aikoaiko Aug 2012 #145
No PD Turk Aug 2012 #84
Honestly I don't know. Too much gray area. Also Butterbean Aug 2012 #88
I believe incest should be illegal. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #92
Could she legally MARRY one of those students? cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #95
Not enough for jail but definitely enough to be fired. n/t taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #96
This would make an interesting poll! RKP5637 Aug 2012 #101
In a normal situation this would be clear to me...not guilty... Swede Atlanta Aug 2012 #103
Was there a quid pro quo? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #104
Her children are going to be hearing about this from their classmates for a long time. Kaleva Aug 2012 #111
NO!!!!!! blueamy66 Aug 2012 #113
Who has a position of authority over an eighteen year old. Come on think back people Monk06 Aug 2012 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #123
nevermind limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #124
The fact that they are 18 doesn't necessarily mean it is consenting davidpdx Aug 2012 #126
I expected a handful of neo-puritans to self-righteously cali Aug 2012 #131
Yes Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #132
Why nothing like that ever happen to me B Calm Aug 2012 #133
I don't think so but when someone is in authority there must be boundaries Swagman Aug 2012 #134
I don't mind the destruction of career. Someone who's fucking students should cali Aug 2012 #136
there's some people here, you'd almost think they thought ALL sex was rape datasuspect Aug 2012 #141
Well it is clearly unethical MadrasT Aug 2012 #142
There are several situations that come to mind (quickly) etherealtruth Aug 2012 #144
Just one more way Texas goes about perverting any common-sense notion coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #146
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