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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
36. Does not a single person understand that governments create reasons to destroy those who oppose them
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:52 AM
Aug 2012

or embarrass them? That there is likely a couple of very well-paid women who have never even met Julian, saying he was inappropriate with him, because there are people like that? Sexual abuse is the hot-button in our extremely sick society.

And put your hats back on. Unwind all of the tapes playing in your heads about me somehow not believing rape victims or victims of abuse etc. etc. etc. I was sexually abused as a child and am sensitive to claims of abuse. This case is different. Please stop spreading the enemy's LIE. If I'm somehow wrong here, I will create a post in GD saying as much. Hold me to it. Their willingness to say they'd storm the Ecuadoran embassy, which would be a genuine act of war, get that, WAR, to get Julian out of the country to answer questions...just questions...how far would and will they go? Goes to motive. I've seen enough shit thrown at Occupy by the powers that be over the last eleven months by all mainstream media to know they are monsters and will say and do what they have to in order to maintain their illusions and Kontrol. Julian is just another symptom of their evil. Judge them, not him.

"If you are not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who doing the oppression." -Malcolm X

damnit, it wont let me rec more than once NightWatcher Aug 2012 #1
I agree... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #2
Sweden can question Assange after Assange is in Ecuador. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #27
They can go speak to him at the Equadorian embassy. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #28
Whatever you think of Assange, please don't keep talking rape. Matilda Aug 2012 #3
Thank you, while I agree with the OP, that fact needs to be repeated as often sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #7
Yup obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #88
Point well taken. morningfog Aug 2012 #10
Gray psy-ops TomClash Aug 2012 #11
Why, you could get your posts hidden for suggesting such a thing! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #12
LOL TomClash Aug 2012 #16
This is true. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #17
Yep. And there's no rule against using sarcasm on DU. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #18
a private message said similar to me Swagman Aug 2012 #24
Yea, you got it. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #25
Maybe someone is retired? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #29
Beats me. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #33
I have a lot of posts because I'm retired, like to talk and type fast (although JDPriestly Aug 2012 #34
The post count was an oblique reference HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #35
Not only did they not accuse him of rape, HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #13
I think you are 100% on the mark.. How can we effectively help Assange, that's what I want to know. crunch60 Aug 2012 #19
Not much, other than countering the lies. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #22
Too many are impervious to reason around here. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #37
I have decided that people just don't read this....IT IS NOT ABOUT RAPE...He movonne Aug 2012 #21
Not every country has medieval rape laws like America. hack89 Aug 2012 #38
Swedish law seems convoluted. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #51
Hack's back. How about answering my questions on your standards as the arbiter of a sex crime riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #68
Yeah, lol, the UK is threatening to storm an Embassy to make him to take an STD test Matariki Aug 2012 #49
Whats more... HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #53
Thank you! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #4
you could be a piece of stone and still have to acknowledge it. grantcart Aug 2012 #5
Why do you "think Assange is a son-of-a-bitch"? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #6
He has a huge ego, which got him into this trouble. morningfog Aug 2012 #8
So he's done no harm to the world. He's done a great service to the world. He's in trouble because AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #14
Take your pick, I don't care. morningfog Aug 2012 #15
He did a great service to the world let us not forget that. We all have Egos, so what that his is crunch60 Aug 2012 #20
I agree DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #9
It is even simpler than that. hifiguy Aug 2012 #23
and remember the Australian (US lackey) government has repeatedly lied Swagman Aug 2012 #26
Yep, whole lot of govt lyin' going on.... HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #30
Agreed. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #31
Just don't do the same thing for Elephant Man RZM Aug 2012 #32
Does not a single person understand that governments create reasons to destroy those who oppose them Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #36
Daniel Ellsberg: I Congratulate Ecuador for Standing Up to British Empire to Protect Julian Assange crunch60 Aug 2012 #43
Thank you. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #58
K&R. This is what we can do here. Just keep writing the truth. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #39
I can't rec this - but I'll kick it for the discussion. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #40
If this were really about the assault charges, Sweden would agree to not extradite him to the US. nt lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #41
Sweden can't offer such an assurance. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #59
As soon as Assange's foot touches Swedish soil Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #42
That's just nonsensical Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #61
People can also be sensitive in how they talk about rape and rape victims while gollygee Aug 2012 #44
Did you really say this? treestar Aug 2012 #45
This particular situation does not warrant Aerows Aug 2012 #46
Nobody is going to "storm an embassy" treestar Aug 2012 #48
Don't be ridiculous. morningfog Aug 2012 #47
Any charge could result in an international arrest warrant treestar Aug 2012 #50
The Swiss rejected the US's request to extradite him. morningfog Aug 2012 #52
How serious do charges have to be treestar Aug 2012 #62
Wrong question. morningfog Aug 2012 #67
Yes, sexual assault is serious. The women said they weren't. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #56
It is not up to the crime victim to decide treestar Aug 2012 #63
Excuse me, what? Aerows Aug 2012 #65
Why did you press charges and say you were raped in the first place? treestar Aug 2012 #74
Actually it is, even under Napoleonic law systems. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #71
The arguement they're making is the same used to restrict womens health access. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #73
A growing (and depressing) list of DUers who want to strip women of the authority to make their own riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #77
Somebody in Sweden started a criminal prosecution treestar Aug 2012 #75
Ny actually OVERRODE the investigator who found no basis for a crime riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #78
Whatever they did, they started something treestar Aug 2012 #79
"They" did not start anything. They've said it was not rape. The state decided for them. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #80
Something got started somewhere treestar Aug 2012 #82
Under what logic does the woman not get to decide? HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #72
Then why did they start something in the courts? treestar Aug 2012 #76
They did not start anything, especially in any court. Ever. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #81
She didn't start the legal process. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #83
The women don't call it rape, they didn't want to press charges. The Swedish govt is riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #55
The women themselves aren't accusing him of rape, the Swedish govt is riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #69
Thank you. Been saying this for days now. It needed to be an OP K&R nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #54
I think that people are largely ignorant of the Swedish legal process. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #57
"Willfully" ignorant, IMO. nt Robb Aug 2012 #64
Not if you're a shill n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2012 #60
I look at Craig Murray and say whoa. tsuki Aug 2012 #66
Make NO mistake about it. 99Forever Aug 2012 #70
So Jamie Leigh Jones should have just shut up then? jeff47 Aug 2012 #84
Not what I am arguing at all. Nice try, though. morningfog Aug 2012 #85
You are welcome to rephrase. jeff47 Aug 2012 #86
The best OP written on this whole situation obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #87
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