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Nitram

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6. I strongly disagree. If there is no chance the Senate will vote to impeach it is a waste of taxpayer

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Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:29 PM

Dec 2018

dollars, and will weaken the Democratic Party. Like it or not, politics are involved in EVERY action in government. Democracy doesn't function without politics. Politics are the way people make compromises and negotiate good outcomes. The word "politics" like the word "liberal" has acquired a negative connotation that does not accurately convey what the word really means. If a decision is made to ignore the law and the Constitution "purely" on POLITICAL grounds, that is bad. But politics will always be involved decisions because the political process is how empathy and other non-legal values are factored into decision-making.

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Stop politicizing the oversight job of the House. [View all] Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 OP

If we have the facts, the House must act delisen Dec 2018 #1

+1,000 llmart Dec 2018 #2

Exactly. Scarsdale Dec 2018 #8

Is my sarcasm detector broken? bitterross Dec 2018 #5

Trump does not, Butterflylady Dec 2018 #9

I agree with you about Clinton vs. Trump. bitterross Dec 2018 #12

I'm of the same mind...... MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #54

I think you raise very important points. delisen Dec 2018 #13

The 45 cult is not very large despite what the media tries to portray them as. llmart Dec 2018 #16

The GOP Senators are still afraid of them. Still involved in the conspiracy. bitterross Dec 2018 #18

THAT is probably MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #55

The Mueller investigation is almost over, so the House will get the facts as they get started. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #19

Great protest slogan: "We have the facts! The House must act!" nt AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #26

Good one! MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #56

"The House must not pre-judge whether the Senate will vote to convict or not. " brooklynite Dec 2018 #44

It worked out pretty much exactly as you would expect impeaching a president for a bj would work out KelleyKramer Dec 2018 #52

I Trust Nancy Pelosi dlk Dec 2018 #3

Well, except for that time when she said there Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #7

The statement "Impeachment is off the table." was a... lame54 Dec 2018 #11

Precisely. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #20

Bernie Sanders on impeachment: "Jumping the gun does nobody any good. ... You don't want betsuni Dec 2018 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author bitterross Dec 2018 #4

I strongly disagree. If there is no chance the Senate will vote to impeach it is a waste of taxpayer Nitram Dec 2018 #6

It's time the Democratic Party stands for something. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #10

Wrong. You've got some nice slogans and bumper stickers. Those don't win elections, and they don't Nitram Dec 2018 #29

We're fighting on the same side. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #37

Talking point: The Democratic Party doesn't stand for anything. betsuni Dec 2018 #33

Nice to know you think the Democratic Party stands for nothing GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #46

I agree Nasruddin Dec 2018 #14

There have only been two impeachments, think4yourself Dec 2018 #17

Impeachment is not "a failed instrument." It requires a majority of both houses. If it didn't, Nitram Dec 2018 #30

I think McConnell is hoping for exactly that: for the Dems to be judged by the electorate, Texin Dec 2018 #15

We will appear weak if we don't do our jobs. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #22

So Obama was weak. Got it. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #47

Obama was not perfect. He should have gone after Bush II and Cheney and that would have rectified Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #57

Suffice to say I think you are off base with several of you beliefs. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #63

Your concern is duly noted. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #64

"that's how the Democrats have been viewed since Lieberman's time." betsuni Dec 2018 #51

To pretend it's a novel idea is disingenuous Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #60

Thank you for wading into the breach Ponietz Dec 2018 #21

The hate machine has never for one minute stopped attacking Democratic leaders and candidates. Nitram Dec 2018 #31

Or what, Baitball? If our leaders are far too smart Hortensis Dec 2018 #23

They keep making the same weak decisions Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #24

Baitball, we're a whole month out from the midterms. Hortensis Dec 2018 #38

Fine people I am sure. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #40

Baitball, when people are asked how they're doing, Hortensis Dec 2018 #41

I don't think this is going anywhere, as far as a discussion is concerned. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #42

We have a large constituency. Not all agree with you. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #49

The concept of Democrats as weak is not a novel. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #58

Hard facts? But you have none, Bait. Reality refutes your claims. Hortensis Dec 2018 #50

Stop trying to use the "Straight out of the Republican playbook" meme to diffuse my arguement Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #59

Yep. I'm waiting for the 'both parties are the same' to drop GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #62

Your last paragraph reflection Dec 2018 #25

Simply put... Snackshack Dec 2018 #27

. . and . . Strelnikov_ Dec 2018 #34

I hope you are right Snackshack Dec 2018 #35

I trust Pelosi to judge all the variables and then decide how to proceed. nt elfin Dec 2018 #28

Impeachment without a conviction is not meaningless, as some are claiming. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #36

If Trump is not impeached, I predict there will be another GOP POTUS PufPuf23 Dec 2018 #39

Agree with all your points. Every non-action creates opportunity. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #45

You realize you just blamed republican actions on Democrats? GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #65

I don't agree with your framing of my response. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #66

But you whole 'position' is an attack on democratic leaders GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #67

I am so sorry you are taking this so personally. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #68

No - it's not brooklynite Dec 2018 #43

Lindsay Graham voted to impeach Clinton JonLP24 Dec 2018 #48

Nice anti-Democratic talking points! betsuni Dec 2018 #53

We are not going to improve unless you can take criticism. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #61