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Blue_true

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78. Did you read the summary of their concerns?

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:16 PM

Dec 2018

The orientation is a big business, 1% affair. No people that work with the poor is there to give their advice, no labor leaders, no civil justice leaders. A lot is wrong with it.

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AOC and other new House progressives are tweeting their dissatisfaction with orientation at Harvard [View all] sl8 Dec 2018 OP

What don't they like about it? vlyons Dec 2018 #1

... shanny Dec 2018 #5

Corporate right wing indoctrination before they are even sworn in. watoos Dec 2018 #15

A little about the program before we kick the shit out of it bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #67

Neutral environment? Caliman73 Dec 2018 #86

Agree Red Oak Dec 2018 #91

same here n/t orleans Dec 2018 #142

Lol. The American Enterprise Institute? They are almost solely responsible for inventing Tea Baggers Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #99

Somebody forgot to mention lobbyists in their promotion literature. GeorgeGist Dec 2018 #135

Did you read the summary of their concerns? Blue_true Dec 2018 #78

Did you read who the speakers are keeping in mind that there are both D's and R's Members-elect bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #140

Ok, you proved your point. There are many very strong democrats in the speaker lineup. Blue_true Dec 2018 #166

I have been lucky in my life to talk to many Freshman Members of Congress bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #167

I'm glad they are asking the questions Bettie Dec 2018 #2

WHY? Surely you jest.. :))))) pangaia Dec 2018 #8

WTF? Congressional orientation has been privatized? That's apalling! lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #12

Freshmen orientation was in Washington in November Hangingon Dec 2018 #40

That list does not look Democratic True Blue American Dec 2018 #149

Excellent! ananda Dec 2018 #3

Yup California_Republic Dec 2018 #33

Good move on their part. n/t delisen Dec 2018 #4

Whose bad idea was it to corporate force-feed AOC, Pressley, Tlaib et al? BeyondGeography Dec 2018 #6

They signed up to go, no one was forced bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #168

Excellent! Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #7

The change of "status quo" must start somewhere. Why not HERE? Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #9

I think it is great! True Blue American Dec 2018 #150

"Millennials are destroying the congressional orientation industry" Dopers_Greed Dec 2018 #10

I'm guessing this editorial might interest you ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2018 #45

Gotta start somewhere... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2018 #11

I had no idea that corporate interests were involved from the get-go. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #13

+1! Nothing like fresh, un-compromised, un-indoctrinated minds to question the status quo! flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #27

Great observation. KPN Dec 2018 #85

AND WHERE ARE THE 21st CENTURY UNIONS???? DemocracyMouse Dec 2018 #139

Mary Barro? True Blue American Dec 2018 #154

So proud of these young women for shaking up the boat. lark Dec 2018 #14

Fantastic! Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #16

We need more of this. And i think we're going to get it! n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #17

Corporate lobbyists are crapping their linen kairos12 Dec 2018 #18

I'd prefer the headline not read ""AOC and others ..." EffieBlack Dec 2018 #19

This headline was actually better than most in that regard, but I generally agree. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #23

I agree EffieBlack Dec 2018 #26

Doesn't look like she's keeping her head down, and I don't think she should. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #41

+1000 this is not the time in our history to be quiet and keep ones head down! Canoe52 Dec 2018 #73

She needs to find a balance EffieBlack Dec 2018 #75

Members of the House have a unique role Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #107

We agree EffieBlack Dec 2018 #120

"She needs to find a balance" hueymahl Dec 2018 #112

I am also proud of her for speaking out - she is definitely a social media person womanofthehills Dec 2018 #116

If I had meant "she needs to know her place," I would have said that EffieBlack Dec 2018 #118

I know the difference hueymahl Dec 2018 #119

Surely you're not including me in the category of people you think are "attacking" her EffieBlack Dec 2018 #123

Maybe attack is too strong a word hueymahl Dec 2018 #124

Where did I find fault with her? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #126

Ok. Whatever you say hueymahl Dec 2018 #128

I Believe That AOC Started Out In Constituent Services Progressive2020 Dec 2018 #137

Balance! True Blue American Dec 2018 #151

Generally agree. Some of the other freshwomen should take turns being the leader flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #30

What would have been your headline? oberliner Dec 2018 #160

Perspective: 6 (?) out of 100 new members. The rest are inside Hortensis Dec 2018 #20

Six is five more than one BeyondGeography Dec 2018 #21

Yes, but either McConnell or Putin could easily Hortensis Dec 2018 #25

On the contrary, they're speaking up because they know very well what they're up against BeyondGeography Dec 2018 #28

2016, Beyond. If that reminder doesn't scare you, Hortensis Dec 2018 #37

Ever watch Dylan Ratigan, 4 PM on msnbc? watoos Dec 2018 #46

Yes, well, WHEN and IF we gain majorities in DC Hortensis Dec 2018 #54

I loved Dylan! True Blue American Dec 2018 #152

I'm having a hard time understanding your point? You seem to be saying these rookies would be KPN Dec 2018 #64

No, I want them to continue speaking up, exciting Hortensis Dec 2018 #80

Thanks for the clarification. Good to know as I respect your insight. KPN Dec 2018 #97

:) Same right back. Here's a reminder for anyone Hortensis Dec 2018 #101

Yes, and they're implying that there are existing members who don't want the same things they do. LisaM Dec 2018 #103

"I know you've heard this a million times before, but..." probably isn't the best way Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #106

Why should I have to be schooled on Pelosi by someone in her 20s? LisaM Dec 2018 #110

You said she needs to recognize those who have done what she is doing. I showed she did. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #125

To be fair, our party still includes some conservatives Hortensis Dec 2018 #109

You are absolutely Correct! We do not have to shut up because the RW Media True Blue American Dec 2018 #153

I'm pretty sure these newly elected people watoos Dec 2018 #29

Because these new people are savvy but the others are clueless idiots? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #89

Nice straw-man (straw-woman?) there hueymahl Dec 2018 #113

I guess the words "the larger group who don't understand they are being fed right wing propaganda" EffieBlack Dec 2018 #127

WTF melman Dec 2018 #42

"They" are the Republican leadership and Russia. Hortensis Dec 2018 #48

Bullshit melman Dec 2018 #53

We're all on the same team, Melman. Hortensis Dec 2018 #62

I understood perfectly well melman Dec 2018 #74

"Can it Happen Here? I'm not the enemy, Melman. Hortensis Dec 2018 #93

the complainer is the squeaky wheel who always treestar Dec 2018 #72

I'm tired of people not complaining about injustice hueymahl Dec 2018 #114

This isn't a particularly grand injustice treestar Dec 2018 #132

So, the question should be.. disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #90

The Discussion was called "A Discussion with Business Leaders" bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #169

You might be ok with David Cohen disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #179

See post 140, a list of some but not all speakers bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #180

Malala spoke. seaglass Dec 2018 #22

Nice of the former head of Goldman Sachs to clue them in on who really runs things... PoliticAverse Dec 2018 #24

Way to shine a spotlight on where corruption starts! Way to ACTUALLY drain a fucking swamp, ladies! flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #32

Love this. We are building a wall. JudyM Dec 2018 #39

Sorry, but this is bullshit. If they really wanted to make an impact, they should attend the still_one Dec 2018 #31

I think after the 4th CEO came in to tell me how to do my job, I'd tell others too, and then leave flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #34

I got the impression that they didn't even attend the orientation? Is that correct? still_one Dec 2018 #35

"Lobbyists are here. Goldman Sachs is here." From the use of the words "is here" and "are here" Autumn Dec 2018 #43

OK, but I would like to know if they at least attended the event initially. I can understand them still_one Dec 2018 #47

Sounds like they attended some and left other events. Autumn Dec 2018 #51

Then I am cool with that. My disdain toward Elaine Chao go back to the bush administration where still_one Dec 2018 #69

Look who she's married to crazycatlady Dec 2018 #122

++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Dec 2018 #129

I do not believe my Rep Lori Trahan would refuse to attend and not listen. Anything I've heard seaglass Dec 2018 #50

That is fine, I just was curious if they had at least initially attended the orientation, or did still_one Dec 2018 #57

You could have read the article, instead of assuming certain things. nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #104

Why should she listen to Goldman Sachs spout their bullshit? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #44

You are going to go real far only listening to people you agree with. still_one Dec 2018 #49

So what do you think Goldman Sachs was going to tell them that was worthwhile? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #55

Don't throw nonesense at me implying that I agree that lobbyists should be at the orientation, I still_one Dec 2018 #65

Goldman Sachs has a shit ton of financial expertise Loki Liesmith Dec 2018 #87

If you are fighting for a specific Agenda, it helps to know what you are dealing with still_one Dec 2018 #130

They certainly know how to cheat people... PoliticAverse Dec 2018 #147

I am slamming you for this comment ProfessorPlum Dec 2018 #59

I NEVER said one should be polite and silent. All I said is it would serve their interests to at still_one Dec 2018 #77

you said you were sure you were going to get slammed ProfessorPlum Dec 2018 #102

I want her to continue to speak out. Marrah_Goodman Dec 2018 #63

I'm trying to understand your rationale for saying this is BS. It seems to be nothing more than KPN Dec 2018 #83

+1 n/t Devil Child Dec 2018 #146

Goldman Sach Snackshack Dec 2018 #36

giving their marching orders to their servants, of course ProfessorPlum Dec 2018 #58

The network evening news often includes a regular business report, but PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #38

The newspapers have the Jobs Section ... aggiesal Dec 2018 #94

Jobs section as in Help Wanted? PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #96

Okay, I'm game... jmowreader Dec 2018 #143

Information about wages, about job training, about jobs that are available, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #148

Good for them! nt jrthin Dec 2018 #52

This is excellent ellie Dec 2018 #56

Good. dchill Dec 2018 #60

This is good news... ConnorMarc Dec 2018 #61

"I was not sent to Washington to play nice." Hotler Dec 2018 #66

That is a good statement from AOC. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #92

"cosponsored by the American Enterprise Institute..."? Grins Dec 2018 #68

Good news for modern man! This is exactly what AOC was elected to do. Kudos to her and KPN Dec 2018 #70

Is that why she was elected? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #81

As far as I can tell, yes. She has been consistent in her messaging, including in KPN Dec 2018 #100

Yes, but this is the kind of thing she ran on. Giving power back to the people. Fighting JCanete Dec 2018 #105

Why are they getting orientation at all, this is not a school treestar Dec 2018 #71

Goldman Sachs again, just trying to help make government work better? AOC is never going jalan48 Dec 2018 #76

You forgot the sarcasm thingee ... aggiesal Dec 2018 #95

Thanks. I forgot it again! jalan48 Dec 2018 #98

LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MyNameGoesHere Dec 2018 #79

This is not an attendance mandatory program. I think the Members-Elect actually pay to attend bottomofthehill Dec 2018 #82

No thanks. I would rather look at AOC and her group of six. hueymahl Dec 2018 #115

No! LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!! MyNameGoesHere Dec 2018 #121

Good going! whathehell Dec 2018 #84

As they should.. disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #88

Sounds like "Play the game our way and give up your backbone" orientation. ooky Dec 2018 #108

I like her style at shaking things up. It's Mr. Smith... NNadir Dec 2018 #111

Great Analogy! hueymahl Dec 2018 #117

God I love her. pdsimdars Dec 2018 #131

It's bipartisan. Of course the Republicans ruin everything. betsuni Dec 2018 #133

I agree they should add in a labor portion. tammywammy Dec 2018 #134

It looks like she did. sl8 Dec 2018 #136

God Bless AOC, Pressley, and The New Progressive Members Of Congress. Progressive2020 Dec 2018 #138

God bless Adam Schiff and Ted Lieu, two brilliant fighters R B Garr Dec 2018 #141

I read no such insinuation in the post you replied to Devil Child Dec 2018 #144

You don't have to read an "insinuation", since the meaning R B Garr Dec 2018 #157

Strange Progressive2020 Dec 2018 #172

I just said there was no insinuation. LOL R B Garr Dec 2018 #173

Not Insinuating That Progressive2020 Dec 2018 #171

Maxine Waters is also great. There are so many GREAT Democrats. R B Garr Dec 2018 #174

Who Is Running Other Democrats Down? Progressive2020 Dec 2018 #178

I'm loving our new freshman representatives! Some real fighters in this group Devil Child Dec 2018 #145

Yes, looks like we got an especially good crop this year. :) Hortensis Dec 2018 #155

And the right wing True Blue American Dec 2018 #156

:) Oh,and they will! The house just became what Hortensis Dec 2018 #158

Of course True Blue American Dec 2018 #161

Scalise's actions pretty much epitomized what they're doing, Hortensis Dec 2018 #164

Great summation, Hortensis! True Blue American Dec 2018 #165

Adam Schiff and Ted Lieu are highly visible every day and R B Garr Dec 2018 #159

Along with Swalwell True Blue American Dec 2018 #162

And Maxine Waters. So many hard working Democrats very R B Garr Dec 2018 #175

Yes! True Blue American Dec 2018 #163

Good! bluecollar2 Dec 2018 #170

im getting bored..... samnsara Dec 2018 #176

Rep. Barbara Lee, our new 2nd ranking woman in top leadership, Hortensis Dec 2018 #177